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Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent

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Re: Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent

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Why use a browser from Google or Microsoft in 2026? Why in the world?

i use chrome enterprise for my personal use, which is managed via the google workspace admin.

you would think google is not stupid enough to mess with gcp account holders

Re: Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent

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> Energy intensity of network data transfer: 0.06 kWh per GB, the mid-band of Pärssinen et al. (2018) "Environmental impact assessment of online advertising", Science of The Total Environment [14]. The paper reports a 0.04-0.10 kWh/GB range depending on the share of fixed-line vs mobile transfer and inclusion of end-user device energy. 0.06 is a defensible mid-point.

2018? An estimate from 8 years ago is going to be off by a factor of 10 or so.

Not sure you'd get far with the legal arguments unless you're actually a lawyer. Too easy to misunderstand the jargon (i.e. the same reason why it's dangerous to use an LLM as your lawyer).

(As an aside, the whole thing reads to me like the style LLMs use; not saying for sure it was, just giving me those vibes).

Re: Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent

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I have no idea but when I mention Firefox my colleagues under 35 or so literally think I'm joking.

They've been consuming 15+ years of anti-Mozilla rants anytime it or Firefox are mentioned online. It's how you get things like "Browser monocultures are an issue, so don't use Chrome (Blink), use Brave (Chromium (Blink)) instead!" said in earnest.

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Re: Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent

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"Silently installs" is misleading. They are including a file in the package which is presumably related to the functionality of the software. I don't use chrome for a long list of reasons but it is not standard or expected to get consent for that.

“Silent” seems appropriate given it historically never required such a large storage requirement and the nature of the new feature seems entirely optional; and it’s happening silently as part of a normal upgrade.

Re: Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent

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Yes, which is why I use paid-for OSes and browsers, instead of free ones like Linux or Firefox. I don't want to be the product.

I think with Windows you probably are the customer and the product

Cory Doctorow had an essay about that years ago, except he didn't artificially limit it to Windows:

"Even if you're paying for the product, you're still the product: Incentives matter, but impunity matters more."

https://pluralistic.net/2022/11/14/luxury-surveillance/#liar...

Re: Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent

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I do not agree: I live by the sea and this is exactly the answer I get when I talk about trash in the sea. I personally appreciate even more that kind of "stretch" then the privacy one (which could be another "stretch" on getting closer to 1984 scenario)

I guess you can write an article about every new gigabyte released, and we can use more gigabytes talking about it, but other than that I don't see that any one gigabyte of software I don't want is especially more noteworthy than any other gigabyte of software I don't want. An xBox game can be 50+ gigs. Millions of gamers. Fire up the presses! I'm not at all saying nothing matters so we shouldn't care. I just disagre…

> An xBox game can be 50+ gigs.

In my experience a game worth playing never exceeded 1 (one) gig in size.

It is only incompetent creators that feel the need to bury their incompetence under gigabytes of irrelevance.

Re: Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent

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"Silently installs" is misleading. They are including a file in the package which is presumably related to the functionality of the software. I don't use chrome for a long list of reasons but it is not standard or expected to get consent for that.

Then what is your definition of "installing" exactly? Are you going to split hairs about it not being a separate program being installed and running in the background, but weights being used by code that is run inside the browser? Because honestly, I don't think there's any significant difference from the user's perspective here. Other than the fact that doing the latter bypasses the need to get permission to install…

Install does convey something more involved than including a file, that's not splitting hairs. It is not uncommon for software to include malware that runs independently of the software you expected, and the headline is clickbait that taps into those concerns. I'm here for the concerns about bloat. "Downloads" would have been the right term to use but it doesn't sound as scary.

Re: Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent

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Framing 4GB of data moving in a world of petabytes of traffic as a specific environmental disaster is kind of a stretch, regardless of whether we want the model.

I would more worry about storage space on some laptops with pretty small SSDs like 192-256GB of official capacity prior installing Windows, 4GB of that is already pretty significant part of storage space for something which should be opt-in.

Re: Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent

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> The pattern was: install on user launch of product A, write configuration into the user's installs of products B, C, D, E, F, G, H without asking. Reach across vendor trust boundaries. No consent dialog. No opt-out UI. Re-installs itself if the user removes it manually, every time Claude Desktop is launched. God, I'm SICK of this AI slop style. After ingesting terabytes of pirated books you'd expect a little bit mo…

Like 2/3 posts on HN now have this "No X. No Y. No Z." pattern. It's one of strong signals for me that the author didn't bother and just copy pasted their LLM's output as is. And the LLM mostly likely was pointed at some other resource to write the article, and I'd rather read the original. I think HN needs a policy to replace AI slop articles with the original articles/announcements etc. once detected, and technically the guidelines already cover it: "Please submit the original source. If a post reports on something found on another site, submit the latter."

>After ingesting terabytes of pirated books you'd expect a little bit more variety in it's writing.

I think it's the result of post-training. The original base model most likely had a less slopy style. This style is what AI companies think is a good style (they specifically train for it).

Re: Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent

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The browser with a sidebar AI chatbot? What a simple solution.

You don't have to have the sidebar chatbot thing. When mozilla added these AI features, after the update the browser prompted me to whether I want it or not, with the "yes" and "no" being equally easy to select. It did not add them without consent. You can disable all AI features altogether, or you can completely remove chatbot sidebar specifically (with 2 clicks) and have the rest of the features if you want them. G…

I would prefer a browser without any ai slop.
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