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Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent

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Re: Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent

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I thought using local rather than cloud AI was pretty universally agreed to be good?

Except these weights are barely used. Read the article.

Thanks for reminding, it was a moment of weakness. Here is the relevant quote:

> the features that do use the local model (Help-Me-Write in , tab-group AI suggestions, smart paste, page summary) are buried in textarea-context menus and tab-group right-click menus

Re: Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent

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post #10

Why use a browser from Google or Microsoft in 2026? Why in the world?

What are the alternatives? Only a massively moneyed corp has the resources to fight vulns at acceptable rates. Firefox doesn’t count because they’re being funded by Google.

I don't understand this perspective. How can one accept the objectively more user hostile option because the less hostile one gets money from the other. If one objects to using products funded by google, why is there not also an objection to using products from google?

For as long as the funding for Firefox continues, it remains a viable option. And despite all their bad decisions of late, they still give users the ability to configure or disable user hostile components.

Their funding model is a risk, but I've been using Firefox and librewolf forever and I'd argue it's a much better option than chrome or edge, especially with a handful of plugins. A risk is still better than the actual realization of the risk.

Re: Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent

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That's really a bullshit argument. First off, there are plenty of technical solutions that allow minors (15-17 years old) to bypass the restrictions: using sites that don't follow the law, using Tor, etc. But furthermore, these measures to restrict access to porn are counterproductive for sex workers, because it makes their situation more precarious, and they only exist to weaponize the "think of the children" narrative in order to push draconian laws and social control. Soon it will be social media's turn, and then the entire internet asking for an ID. This isn't just an empty "slippery slope" argument, it's exactly what regulators are currently doing in all Western countries.

Re: Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent

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I use Firefox as my main browser but occasionally run into Chrome requirements for certain web apps so end up begrudgingly installing it. I'm in the habit of going straight to the chrome flags page and turning off all this junk exactly because disk usage of chrome is ridiculous otherwise.

Re: Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent

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Please feel free to suggest a better alternative.

FWIW I've recently moved from Firefox to Helium after 10+ years. Yes, I hate that it's also Chromium, but no, there aren't real alternatives.

There are Firefox forks that don't have any AI/advertising/etc. stuff in it.

There's also WebKit-based FOSS browsers not based on Chromium nor Gecko. Upstream it's maintained by Apple but the open source webkit browsers should not have any questionable features by default.

Re: Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent

#166

If Chrome has the #optimization-guide-on-device-model and #prompt-api-for-gemini-nano flags enabled, either because it's part of some Origin Trial / Early Stable Release or something, then web pages will have access to the new Prompt API which allows any webpage to initiate the (one-time) download of the ~2.7 GiB CPU or ~4.0 GiB GPU model using LanguageModel.create() https://developer.chrome.com/docs/ai/prompt-api Wh…

It is a small model, so what utility can I / Google expect from it? What is the on-board model used for?

It's based on Gemma 3n, and it's not the best.

I find it works fine for simple classification, translation, interpretation of images & audio. It can write longer prose, but it's pretty bad.

It can also write text in the format of a JSON schema or regexp for anything you might want to do with structured data.

Re: Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent

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Sorry but the whole climate angle on this is extremely stupid and needs to be challenged. I have noticed this new phenomenon of people using climate as a trump card to oppose any thing they don’t like. The thing about these kind of arguments is that any economic activity or any sort of action involves some load on climate. The magnitudes are important. In this case: a single hamburger does the same amount of emission…

There is consumer demand for hamburgers. There is no consumer demand for AI, hence how egregious that it also comes with negative externalities.

I have to tell you something: there is consumer demand for AI.

Re: Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is a lot of traffic to you? 2.5 million downloads of 4 GB are 10 PB of traffic. I think there are be a lot more than 2.5 million Chrome users in the world.

You only download it when some JS requests it for the first time, most people will never have it.

I never intentionally used any AI features in Chrome but first was made aware of the models when my disk was running out of space. I investigated with a disk usage tool and found I had multiple versions of the model in my Chrome directory taking up ~12gb. This was about half a year ago and maybe I was in a bad experiment or something but it's definitely not opt in or user visible. Less tech savvy people will have a really hard time understanding why their disk space is running low.

Re: Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent

#170

Framing 4GB of data moving in a world of petabytes of traffic as a specific environmental disaster is kind of a stretch, regardless of whether we want the model.

60.000.000 kg ÷ 1.000.000.000 user

is about 60 gramms of co2 per user?

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