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Kids can bypass some age checks with a drawn-on mustache

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Re: Kids can bypass some age checks with a drawn-on mustache

#31

The next age verification tech will involve checking tallness so we'll have kids standing on eachother's shoulders in a big trenchcoat to do the very adult act of installing linux.

And when they need to find a way to circumvent this, they will ask for the full height picture without clothes on. Instead of addressing the problem of this entire idea and implementation they will continue to double down on it.

Re: Kids can bypass some age checks with a drawn-on mustache

#32
The only good justification of it can be that the companies can claim that the age verification was done as per Terms of Service, so in the future no parent or parent group can come after them for the content. Along with better targeted advertising by identifying the target audiences.

Logically parents are probably best suited to gate the content for their children how they see it fit.

Re: Kids can bypass some age checks with a drawn-on mustache

#33

One big problem is that the verification is trying to estimate your age instead of looking up who is the actual person and then checking what the age is of that person. If the lookup returns that the face is that of a video game character it should reject as opposed to trying to estimate the age of that character.

> looking up who is the actual person

"Fallacies programmers believe about people"

(you can sort of do this in countries with national ID schemes if you don't care about foreigners; for example, various people have found this in China where random things are gated behind having a WeChat account which requires a Chinese ID. You can't do this in the US or UK, which are big pushers of the ""age verification"" scheme)

Re: Kids can bypass some age checks with a drawn-on mustache

#36
post #25

The result will be age verification with a passport or ID "to protect the children". Probably this was the goal all along.

Already a thing for a lot of services (like financial), but still. There's better ways that don't involve sending your ID or facial scans to a first or third party.

Yeah, I set up a trading212 account lately and they wanted ID scan + live video. I mind that a bit less for finance: identity theft is real, and there are significant disadvantages to me if someone can set up a bank account in my name without getting ID checked.

I'm not doing it for bloody discord or bsky DMs.

Re: Kids can bypass some age checks with a drawn-on mustache

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post #31

The next age verification tech will involve checking tallness so we'll have kids standing on eachother's shoulders in a big trenchcoat to do the very adult act of installing linux.

And when they need to find a way to circumvent this, they will ask for the full height picture without clothes on. Instead of addressing the problem of this entire idea and implementation they will continue to double down on it.

And that’s how the laws designed to protect children ended up producing the worlds largest collection of photos of naked children.

Re: Kids can bypass some age checks with a drawn-on mustache

#38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nowhere does the us "center of the universe" mindset shine more through, then when to expect the world to remember the presidential dogs name.

Well, the main hurdle was that we were 7-9 years old iirc and didn't know any English at all, beyond the memorized "knock knock" etc. So the topic of the questions wasn't on the table :-)

I love this story. I remember seeing two pre-literate kindergarten kids playing on a gameboy or similar handheld, one of them teaching the other strings of button presses for things like “save game” - just navigating through all the menus by memory.

Re: Kids can bypass some age checks with a drawn-on mustache

#39
post #33

One big problem is that the verification is trying to estimate your age instead of looking up who is the actual person and then checking what the age is of that person. If the lookup returns that the face is that of a video game character it should reject as opposed to trying to estimate the age of that character.

> looking up who is the actual person "Fallacies programmers believe about people" (you can sort of do this in countries with national ID schemes if you don't care about foreigners; for example, various people have found this in China where random things are gated behind having a WeChat account which requires a Chinese ID. You can't do this in the US or UK, which are big pushers of the ""age verification"" scheme)

You don't need an Id. For example, you can crawl the internet for selfies and then try and tie that face with the person it belongs to. With enough datasets you can start to put together a database of relevant people enough that it's okay to do deeper validation for the people you did not collect a face for.

Re: Kids can bypass some age checks with a drawn-on mustache

#40
I think the reverse Hanlon's Razor applies here:

"Never attribute to stupidity that which is adequately explained by malice."

The Helen Lovejoy argument "will somebody please think of the children" provided for the foot in the door. The intended outcome is that only iris scans will allow for full child protection ... and that was the plan all along.

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