I just tried it out and parts of the ncurses UI seems less responsive than I'm used to in vim. For example, try hitting ctrl-alt-f for incremental find, then hit esc to leave it. It seems to take a second to exit incremental find mode. Does anybody else see this?
Textadept: fast, minimalist, and Lua-extensible cross-platform text editor
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Re: Textadept: fast, minimalist, and Lua-extensible cross-platform text editor
#62I didn't see this in the Debian repository yet? Years of experience have taught me that 99% of the time if a project isn't in the Debian repo it isn't mature yes or useful to more than a small niche and probably not worth my time. The 1% that is missing there is when I am part of the small niche.
Not meant as an attack or anything. Just an observation and possibly a 'marketing' suggestion if you'd like more users.
Re: Textadept: fast, minimalist, and Lua-extensible cross-platform text editor
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I don't think even most Vim fans would claim vim is "as extensible" as Emacs Vim fan reporting. Apart from async(which Vim can't do), Vim is as extensible as Emacs in letter and spirit. Considering that you are vowing vim allegiance, I think tpope's plugins would have made it pretty obvious how extensible vim is. > Still with proper support for Lua, I suspect it might be forced to do a lot of the same things Emacs…
One part where emacs beats vim is the ability to embed images. Emacs + AucTeX is by far the best editing platform for LaTeX because auctex converts the math snippets into images and displays them in emacs buffer. It is possible to write the backend support in vim as well, but not possible to display the image inside the vim buffer.
Uuurrgghl. Images in a text editor. I'm quite happy Vim doesn't support that.
Re: Textadept: fast, minimalist, and Lua-extensible cross-platform text editor
#64Sadly, on the Mac, this doesn't feel like a native application and things like changing the size of the window are broken. Also, a horizontal scrollbar appearing in an empty text window is strange. Might work great on Linux and I like the idea but the execution on Mac leaves a lot to be desired.
Yeah, I tried the 'source-map' layout but it won't remember the zoom levels when re-opening a session. http://i.imgur.com/mxYO0.png
And it doesn't use Exposé for windows, at all. That's a shame. I'd like to have several editor windows open, with separate buffer lists.
I like where they're going with it, but are they there yet? Meh.
Re: Textadept: fast, minimalist, and Lua-extensible cross-platform text editor
#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
The (deprecated) debug module has some screen shots that show margin markers: http://foicica.com/wiki/lua-debugger The styling and symbol choice is configurable. Not sure how inline diff works though (for deleted lines), do you have an example in another editor?
Here is how Netbeans does it: http://netbeans.org/projects/versioncontrol/pages/Git_ui#Inl...
What I see on the screenshots there should be possible in Textadept.
Re: Textadept: fast, minimalist, and Lua-extensible cross-platform text editor
#66What does this do that Vim doesn't? I'm just not sure I see any selling points. You can extend Vim with Lua, vim has multiple viewports, support for hundreds of languages, and all the other features like code complete, etc... What itch is this supposed to scratch, that something like Vim, a proven project, cannot? I understand that every developer wants to carve his name out and be king of his own sandcastle. But as…
Vim is cool but... crufty. It seems like the point of this project is to be both extensible and simple/comprehensible. For that, there's nothing like starting from scratch.
Re: Textadept: fast, minimalist, and Lua-extensible cross-platform text editor
#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
Imagine your friends see this app running on your computer, i mean gooosh.... whatevahhh they wouldn't invite you to their minimalism exquisite design parties anymore.
I know you Linux guys are used to every app having a completely different look and feel, but on the mac this app just doesn't feel native. But your story was cool too...
Wow, what a incredibly stupid troll. Could you paint a bigger "I parrot decade old OS stereotypes" on your forehead?
Especially when this is most likely to integrate in Linux, given that it will follow your GTK theme.
Re: Textadept: fast, minimalist, and Lua-extensible cross-platform text editor
#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
The fact that this has a small core of C and Lua, according to the website, is a much better selling point than "unparalleled extensibility". I don't think even most Vim fans would claim vim is "as extensible" as Emacs -- while maybe on paper -- not really. I prefer Vim, but it's hard to argue with the sentiment that "Emacs is a nice operating system". Still with proper support for Lua, I suspect it might be forced t…
Textadept uses Lua as scripting language. Sublime Text uses Python as scripting language. Any hipster working on a text editor that uses Javascript as scripting language?
FWIW the Zeus editor is scriptable in Lua, Python, JavaScript and TCL just to name a few.
Re: Textadept: fast, minimalist, and Lua-extensible cross-platform text editor
#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
Scrollbar chrome makes me instantly lose interest. If there was a screenshot without this (is there a terminal version?), I would regain interest. Screenshots are important especially to people like me who may or may not care. They're the fastest way for a potential user to answer the question: is this worth caring about at all. Some questions you can answer with screenshots: - Does it run on my platform? - Are there…
> Scrollbar chrome makes me instantly lose interest. Scrollbar issue is with my XFCE theme, not textadept. > If there was a screenshot without this (is there a terminal version?), I would regain interest Gnome terminal, windowed: http://i.imgur.com/Dfh6o.png Gnome terminal, fullscreen: http://i.imgur.com/6yoil.png > Does it run on my platform? Runs on Windows, Linux, and MacOS. > Are there any glaringly ugly things a…
Does this support tiled windows in a terminal like Vim or Emacs? Relying on a terminal multiplexer to provide that is less than ideal I think.
Looks good otherwise. Not to my taste, but it is refreshing to see a new text editor that actually seems like it was written by someone who understands the variety of use-cases of text editors.
Re: Textadept: fast, minimalist, and Lua-extensible cross-platform text editor
#70What does this do that Vim doesn't? I'm just not sure I see any selling points. You can extend Vim with Lua, vim has multiple viewports, support for hundreds of languages, and all the other features like code complete, etc... What itch is this supposed to scratch, that something like Vim, a proven project, cannot? I understand that every developer wants to carve his name out and be king of his own sandcastle. But as…
Vim is cool but... crufty. It seems like the point of this project is to be both extensible and simple/comprehensible. For that, there's nothing like starting from scratch.
and yet every single project to reimplement vim "cleanly" has failed. the only successful other implementation out there essentially ported the vim codebase directly to java. i can only conclude that vim has built up a tremendous amount of sheer value along with the cruft that is not easy to reproduce.