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Alberta voter list leak is a potential public safety disaster

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Re: Alberta voter list leak is a potential public safety disaster

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Smith was friendly with Parker. Attended his wedding, did softball interviews with his wife who worked for a right wing media site.

See this is what I mean. "She was friendly" therefore she must be involved!!!

I would be more concerned with the legislation passed last year by the UCP which weakened Elections Alberta's ability to respond to this sort of thing vs. "being friendly", yes.

Re: Alberta voter list leak is a potential public safety disaster

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Respectfully to the American "this isn't that big a deal crowd": you're looking at it from the perspective that this is a commonplace occurrence in your country. IANAL but I have filed privacy complaints in the past at both the federal and provincial level. For the last 26 years in Canada it has been illegal for personal information to be bought and sold on a whim; the person to whom the information applies is consid…

In Canada, for most of the 20th century until maybe 15 years ago, your PII was in a big book that lived at everybody's house and the library unless you specifically opted out.

And?

Re: Alberta voter list leak is a potential public safety disaster

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> Other Canadians eat up negative Alberta news like nothing else, and the media will no doubt provide them with the type of news that they crave. The reality is more the complete opposite. People from not-Alberta care about their own provincial governments and issues and don't really think about Alberta at all. It's the media and government in Alberta that is encouraging this notion that "Alberta is under attack" fro…

That is not my experience at all. Canadians are obsessed with American politics for example, and many people I know follow what's happening in the US closer than their own federal or provincial politics. In general people care more about federal politics than provincial. And hating on Alberta is almost as beloved an activity as hating on the USA.

Couldn't disagree more. I know plenty of folks who hate Smith, but none who'd say they hate "Alberta" or Albertans.

Re: Alberta voter list leak is a potential public safety disaster

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Sending mail to or cold calling voters, okay, that should by all definitions be covered by the First Amendment. Verifying voter rolls, okay, reasonable. But there is no justification for providing voter roll data to the wide public in a way that is machine readable. Or to provide these data to third parties (including political parties, candidates or PACs). Candidates and parties can use USPS Bulk Mail, they do not n…

> But there is no justification for providing voter roll data to the wide public in a way that is machine readable. Why not? It's considered public information, just like political donation records.

> Why not?

Because I don't want it to be. Why so?

> It's considered public information

The question is why is it considered public information.

> just like political donation records.

In what way?

Re: Alberta voter list leak is a potential public safety disaster

#65

I can't wait for our full biometrics to be leaked every week due to every website and app trying to meet the rampant rise of global age-verification legislation.

The Mercor leak last week or so of ids paired with audio recordings did make for the perfect voiceprint db. I'm sure it won't be the last of its kind..

Re: Alberta voter list leak is a potential public safety disaster

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post #42

Respectfully to the American "this isn't that big a deal crowd": you're looking at it from the perspective that this is a commonplace occurrence in your country. IANAL but I have filed privacy complaints in the past at both the federal and provincial level. For the last 26 years in Canada it has been illegal for personal information to be bought and sold on a whim; the person to whom the information applies is consid…

In Canada, for most of the 20th century until maybe 15 years ago, your PII was in a big book that lived at everybody's house and the library unless you specifically opted out.

> unless you specifically opted out.

They don't give you that option when you vote.

Re: Alberta voter list leak is a potential public safety disaster

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post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But there is no justification for providing voter roll data to the wide public in a way that is machine readable. Why not? It's considered public information, just like political donation records.

> Why not? Because I don't want it to be. Why so? > It's considered public information The question is why is it considered public information. > just like political donation records. In what way?

Election integrity requires as much of the mechanics of elections to be transparent to all observers, including politically-disfavord groups, as possible.

If the voter rolls are state secrets, only available to approved insiders, how can you know they're not filled with regime sockpuppets?

Re: Alberta voter list leak is a potential public safety disaster

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The other concerning aspect of this leak is the fact that the list was shared with a group of separatists, and the data on the list is basically everything you need to fraudulently sign someone up for the separatist referendum petition. Some separatists are claiming that certain ridings have had 92.9% of eligible voters sign the petition which is highly dubious: https://x.com/RiseOfAlberta/status/2049668987307303389…

Isn't the worst case scenario here, "Alberta has to vote on whether to secede"?

Re: Alberta voter list leak is a potential public safety disaster

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Respectfully to the American "this isn't that big a deal crowd": you're looking at it from the perspective that this is a commonplace occurrence in your country. IANAL but I have filed privacy complaints in the past at both the federal and provincial level. For the last 26 years in Canada it has been illegal for personal information to be bought and sold on a whim; the person to whom the information applies is consid…

When did you last try with the OPC? I also have experience (a few) and noted a sharp decline post covid. My first go was for Freedom Mobile (success) but the representative from the OPC was borderline harassing me to accept the currently (STILL) completely broken authentication. When I tried again it was 'out of jurisdiction' and no sort of appeal process.

Calling it functional is not something I would do. Judges are also extremely critical of the compensation process a have essentially been forced to take it over. It's also still too new and risky so lawyers are reluctant unless it's paid up front.

If anyone with any say is reading this, I can still break into any Freedom Mobile account in under a minute, including the admin ones.

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