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US healthcare marketplaces shared citizenship and race data with ad tech giants

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Re: US healthcare marketplaces shared citizenship and race data with ad tech giants

#91

It should be illegal to send the data, and illegal to accept it; burn both sides of that bridge.

It's a tracking pixel. They fool you into sending it.

If someone attach a bomb to you car that detonate when you start the motor; they didn't fool you into killing yourself.

Re: US healthcare marketplaces shared citizenship and race data with ad tech giants

#92
post #58

I’m more annoyed that these government healthcare marketplaces are asking people their race in the first place. Really don’t think anything should be, including job applications.

do they ask about pre existing conditions? then prbly race also makes sense.

> do they ask about pre existing conditions? then prbly race also makes sense

Why?

Re: US healthcare marketplaces shared citizenship and race data with ad tech giants

#93

It should be illegal to send the data, and illegal to accept it; burn both sides of that bridge.

At least make it an explicitly protected right to lie about your race in any context. It's a lot easier to ruin a dataset than it is to hide from it.

I wish it were illegal to ask or record people's race in any commercial context in the US.

Re: US healthcare marketplaces shared citizenship and race data with ad tech giants

#95
post #58

I’m more annoyed that these government healthcare marketplaces are asking people their race in the first place. Really don’t think anything should be, including job applications.

I never (in the US) have understood why those questions include separate questions for race (seems to be like white or black or asian) and for ethnicity, including a really odd question about Latino or non Latino. Why those questions, but no Danish vs non Danish, and so on?

It's because latinos can be white, black, or native - and historically most people tracking these data wanted to group latinos independently of non-latino whites, blacks, and natives.

Re: US healthcare marketplaces shared citizenship and race data with ad tech giants

#96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At least make it an explicitly protected right to lie about your race in any context. It's a lot easier to ruin a dataset than it is to hide from it.

I wish it were illegal to ask or record people's race in any commercial context in the US.

The problem is that the government often requires the providers/counter-parties to collect the data, so that a regulator can check for systemic discrimination.

Re: US healthcare marketplaces shared citizenship and race data with ad tech giants

#97
post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

easily 90+% of people are subject to tens of thousands of pages of contract terms they signed but don't know or understand. It's madness.

Here in New Zealand those pages and pages of fine print are disappearing as they are no longer enforceable. The only things in a contract that can be enforced must be stated plainly and clearly Turns out there are o ly a few conditions that are actually necessary

Most long contracts are a reaction to 'failure to warn' lawsuits where plaintiffs (successfully) argued that they should have been notified of something. The problem is that when you add up all those 'somethings', you get absurdly long documents.

Re: US healthcare marketplaces shared citizenship and race data with ad tech giants

#100
post #21

The US citizens will have to fight down those corporate overlords. It is now really just shameful how they leech off of the common man (and common woman). People in democracies outside of the USA shake their head in sadness now. Even Canada is doing better here - don't tell anyone the crazy orange king, for he may begin to potty-mouth and threaten them with invasion again.

corporate overlords? These are the state governments selling your data. The call is coming from inside the house. The sooner we realize that government is comprised of the same slithering slime of human greed and laziness, the more realistic discussions we can have.

It's not even remotely the same scale. At least the government ostensibly has its incentives aligned with the public. False equivance gets us further from where we need to by focusing people on the wrong problems.
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