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Re: I am worried about Bun

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When did Node add native TypeScript? Can you run "node main.ts" directly without any dependencies?

January of last year. Yes. https://nodejs.org/en/blog/release/v23.6.0

That is type stripping and is incompatible with syntax that requires transpilation, so it is not native TypeScript support.

Re: I am worried about Bun

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January of last year. Yes. https://nodejs.org/en/blog/release/v23.6.0

That is type stripping and is incompatible with syntax that requires transpilation, so it is not native TypeScript support.

Isn't that mostly just enums?

Is there anything else that doesn't run as valid JS if you strip the types (and maybe some other extra keywords)out?

Genuine question, in my head there's not much, but TS has a few weird corners I maybe haven't used

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You might be underestimating the effect that corporate policies and culture have on the product. Some teams have a push now to go all in on AI; don't even look at the code. I've seen this in action and the results are probably what you'd expect. Works great at some level, but as complexity accumulates (especially across a team with different "technical vocabularies"), the end result is compounding complexity and mist…

I don't disagree with the notion, but what is up with the dev community championing influencers that work no real jobs and just sell courses where they reread the docs to you at $500 a pop (this gent, $1k a pop)?

I'm not the biggest fan of the influencer community, but I think that it mostly boils down to many learners preferring video content over written material. I've gotten used to reading documentation now, but I remember it being extremely intimidating when I was first learning. It was nice to have someone break stuff down into simple terms for me.

To be fair to Matt Pocock, I know he worked for Vercel and Stately for a while before doing content full time. I can't say anything about his AI content, but I did some of his free lessons when I was learning TypeScript. They included interactive editor lessons and such, so it wasn't just empty videos and fluff like some of the influencers.

Re: I am worried about Bun

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Regardless of Anthropic/ClaudeCode, PerryTS[1] looks like a very promising competitor to Bun. [1]: https://github.com/PerryTS/perry

I would mention deno as the main competitor

Personally I much prefer Deno as it's also doing a lot more work to unify the backend and frontend JS APIs.

Re: I am worried about Bun

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You might be underestimating the effect that corporate policies and culture have on the product. Some teams have a push now to go all in on AI; don't even look at the code. I've seen this in action and the results are probably what you'd expect. Works great at some level, but as complexity accumulates (especially across a team with different "technical vocabularies"), the end result is compounding complexity and mist…

I don't disagree with the notion, but what is up with the dev community championing influencers that work no real jobs and just sell courses where they reread the docs to you at $500 a pop (this gent, $1k a pop)?

I have followed a simple rule in my career, if you offer training/courses I don’t listen to anything you say.

I consider this a hard rule, like ad-blocking (this is exactly that, blocking ads as each talk is an ad (or ad in disguise).

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I envy your experience. Its driving me crazy on a near daily basis now.

I'm still getting pretty good code out of it, but I only use it on side projects. Is the issue with their odd limit system?

Im on pay-per-use plans so its not the limits thats the issue directly, although the product development process could lead to them trying to fix limit issue and breaking the product as a whole.

The main issue is side effects of effort/thinking it seems. It hallucinates at a much higher rate and skips research in a ton of edge cases even with effort of MAX and disabling adaptive thinking, even on 4.6. Ive said before, but using opus today feels like using sonnet from ~October timeframe. Its not anywhere near what opus 4.5 in January felt like, or even opus 4.6 on release (notably 4.6 on release _really_ over-researched even simple tasks and that behavior is almost entirely gone now even with max effort so they are definitely re-tuning these things on the fly and degrading the experience as a result).

EDIT: I also have a very high suspicion that the way they hydrate thinking is buggy and/or lossy (or maybe unintentionally lossy which leads to bugs). So many behaviors just make no sense at the level I have my setup tuned (I have everything set to "just charge me the most money to hopefully get the best results") and the fact that I havent changed anything while using it daily for months and months on end, but have been getting worse and worse results.

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