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Re: Let's talk about LLMs

#3
Let's actually not talk about LLMs.

I honestly couldn't force myself to finish yet another blog post about how "we're not yet sure what impact LLMs will have on society" or whatever beleaguered point the author was attempting to make.

"Some random person's take on LLMs" was maybe interesting in 2024. Today it is not even remotely interesting.

There are a gazillion more interesting things happening today that ought to be of interest to the median HN reader. Can we talk about those instead?

Re: Let's talk about LLMs

#4
I think you're misunderstanding the paradigm shift completely -- AI does not just generate code N(x) more quickly. It thinks N(x) faster, it researches N(x) faster, it tests N(x) faster. There are hundreds of tasks that you'll find engineers are offloading to AI every day. The major hurdle right now is actually pivoting LLMs from just generating code: integrating those tasks into workflows. This is why tool-use and agentic workflows have taken engineering by storm.

Re: Let's talk about LLMs

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Let's actually not talk about LLMs. I honestly couldn't force myself to finish yet another blog post about how "we're not yet sure what impact LLMs will have on society" or whatever beleaguered point the author was attempting to make. "Some random person's take on LLMs" was maybe interesting in 2024. Today it is not even remotely interesting. There are a gazillion more interesting things happening today that ought to…

I am an AI engineer and I honestly agree. Talking about LLMs feels like the new crypto, with some nuances (i.e. many innovative things being possible and done with LLMs whereas crypto innovations were… few and far between).

Re: Let's talk about LLMs

#7
post #4

I think you're misunderstanding the paradigm shift completely -- AI does not just generate code N(x) more quickly. It thinks N(x) faster, it researches N(x) faster, it tests N(x) faster. There are hundreds of tasks that you'll find engineers are offloading to AI every day. The major hurdle right now is actually pivoting LLMs from just generating code: integrating those tasks into workflows. This is why tool-use and a…

True. Knowledge workers are cooked.

Re: Let's talk about LLMs

#8
I have no stake in Fred Brooks. But No Silver Bullet seemed to be taken as gospel on this board. Sufficiently productivity-enhancing technology? Gimme a break man. Maybe you’ll get a 30% boost. Not a 10X boost.

Until recently. dramatic pause

And then AI happened.

Re: Let's talk about LLMs

#9

Let's actually not talk about LLMs. I honestly couldn't force myself to finish yet another blog post about how "we're not yet sure what impact LLMs will have on society" or whatever beleaguered point the author was attempting to make. "Some random person's take on LLMs" was maybe interesting in 2024. Today it is not even remotely interesting. There are a gazillion more interesting things happening today that ought to…

I am an AI engineer and I honestly agree. Talking about LLMs feels like the new crypto, with some nuances (i.e. many innovative things being possible and done with LLMs whereas crypto innovations were… few and far between).

it’s felt like the new crypto to me for about 2-3 years now.

i was doing an ML Sec phd a year or two before all this hype took off. i took one of the OG transformer papers along to present at our official little phd reading group when the paper was only a few months old (the details of this might be a bit sketchy here, was years ago now).

now i want nothing to do with the field in any way shape or form. i’m just done.

edit -- i got incredibly angry after writing this comment. pure hatred and spite for all the charlatans and accompanying bullshit.

Re: Let's talk about LLMs

#10

Let's actually not talk about LLMs. I honestly couldn't force myself to finish yet another blog post about how "we're not yet sure what impact LLMs will have on society" or whatever beleaguered point the author was attempting to make. "Some random person's take on LLMs" was maybe interesting in 2024. Today it is not even remotely interesting. There are a gazillion more interesting things happening today that ought to…

I am an AI engineer and I honestly agree. Talking about LLMs feels like the new crypto, with some nuances (i.e. many innovative things being possible and done with LLMs whereas crypto innovations were… few and far between).

Tedious LLM discourse isn’t aimed at AI engineers. It’s doomscrolling fodder for regular programmers.
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