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I am worried about Bun

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Re: I am worried about Bun

#71
post #9

I don't know, I've been using Claude Code since it came out and it really doesn't seem to be getting worse.

I envy your experience. Its driving me crazy on a near daily basis now.

But are you saying the harness is driving you insane? Or the model? Because Bun is,only the harness, and that part has been improving over time if you stay on the stable channel

Re: I am worried about Bun

#72
The author closes by enumerating some of the things they like about Bun which are not included in pnpm. The list is basically: native TS support, a vite-style bundler and a vitest/jest style test runner.

Other than a bundler, Node already has all of these. Different test runner syntax maybe but otherwise TS "just works" out of the box and their built in test runner is totally capable. Not sure I see the need for such a lament over Bun.

Re: I am worried about Bun

#73
post #27
post #8

I used to be a fan of Bun, but the way it keeps adding bloat makes me seriously doubt its future. Also, it seems like they are doing a lot of vibe coding without taking enough time, which raises other questions. Node.js is also more stable, and it has started supporting TypeScript out of the box. I don’t think Bun will have many advantages after Node 26.

> and it has started supporting TypeScript out of the box Node only does type stripping though. If you want proper TS support you still need a compiler. > I don’t think Bun will have many advantages after Node 26 There are tons of advantages. For instance, Bun includes a lot of features that would need a third party dependency in Node: db driver, S3 client, watch mode, bundler, JSX support, etc.

Why would you want DB drivers and S3 clients in your runtime? That’s exactly what 3rd parties are for, you don’t want to have to update your runtime for a new version of your drivers

Re: I am worried about Bun

#74
I still see no monetization with Bun and Deno to keep them going.

You see this all over the place with other programming languages.

The ones that have bleeding edge features do so, because there are companies, or universities (for their PhD and Msc thesis), that invest into those ecosystems.

In the end nodejs will keep improving, with Microsoft and Google's baking, and that will be it.

Re: I am worried about Bun

#75
post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I envy your experience. Its driving me crazy on a near daily basis now.

But are you saying the harness is driving you insane? Or the model? Because Bun is,only the harness, and that part has been improving over time if you stay on the stable channel

Its the product overall, and its impossible to say where the issues are but I tend to think not the model since the changes seem to be able to occur overnight. So likely a combo of harness and service-layer.

Re: I am worried about Bun

#77
post #72

The author closes by enumerating some of the things they like about Bun which are not included in pnpm. The list is basically: native TS support, a vite-style bundler and a vitest/jest style test runner. Other than a bundler, Node already has all of these. Different test runner syntax maybe but otherwise TS "just works" out of the box and their built in test runner is totally capable. Not sure I see the need for such…

Additionally, with Typescript compiler rewrite, it is even less relevant.

Re: I am worried about Bun

#78
post #65

I disagree with the overall premise: Before the acquisition, Bun had to figure out how to monetize at some point. Now, even though their parent company does some shitty practices with their other software (claude code), it's a stretch to assume this will also translate into making Bun worse: Being worried makes sense but I remain optimistic about Bun. Especially given the context of both of these different context: C…

> Now, even though their parent company does some shitty practices with their other software (claude code), it's a stretch to assume this will also translate into making Bun worse: Being worried makes sense but I remain optimistic about Bun. Can you point to any examples of a company with shitty practices buying one without shitty practices that didn't end up with the shitty practices diffusing through the newly-acqu…

I'm not the parent poster which is why I still stick to looking at the people...

If you start seeing the people that created bun leaving Anthropic, then I'd probably start to worry. And I haven't seen any sign of that yet.

Re: I am worried about Bun

#79
post #72

The author closes by enumerating some of the things they like about Bun which are not included in pnpm. The list is basically: native TS support, a vite-style bundler and a vitest/jest style test runner. Other than a bundler, Node already has all of these. Different test runner syntax maybe but otherwise TS "just works" out of the box and their built in test runner is totally capable. Not sure I see the need for such…

When did Node add native TypeScript? Can you run "node main.ts" directly without any dependencies?

Re: I am worried about Bun

#80
pnpm is even worse. There is no way to bootstrap it without binary blobs making it an easy target supply chain attack waiting to happen that could hide in plain sight indefinitely.
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