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I am worried about Bun

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Re: I am worried about Bun

#51
I wonder why Anthropic chose to spend money on Bun when they could have easily spend that resource on Go which is fairly easy to use and fast. I'm sure their SWEs could easily everything things in Go. Anyone have insight on why?

Re: I am worried about Bun

#52

I disagree with the overall premise: Before the acquisition, Bun had to figure out how to monetize at some point. Now, even though their parent company does some shitty practices with their other software (claude code), it's a stretch to assume this will also translate into making Bun worse: Being worried makes sense but I remain optimistic about Bun. Especially given the context of both of these different context: C…

> it's a stretch to assume this will also translate into making Bun worse

For me it's far from a stretch, in fact it matches closely a pattern that I've seen repeated many times over at this point.

Re: I am worried about Bun

#53
post #51

I wonder why Anthropic chose to spend money on Bun when they could have easily spend that resource on Go which is fairly easy to use and fast. I'm sure their SWEs could easily everything things in Go. Anyone have insight on why?

One of them is a much more efficient but obscure programming language from a competitor, the other is what the web is built on.

Re: I am worried about Bun

#54
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> Will we see issues start popping up in Bun that make it seem like the team doesn't even dogfood their own product? I don't know, but I'm not sure I want to continue using it just in case. I sympathize with the general premise. The reaction to move away seems pre-mature though. It sounds like `bun` is still performing just as well as before, and this sentiment isn't based on concrete changes. I also wouldn't expect…

Disagree, you definitely don’t want to be looking back saying “hm I knew it, I saw the signs, should have trusted myself” Plus it’s not a huge lift right now

Genuine question: why not just wait?

If Bun stays great, you saved yourself some time for switching, and got to keep using Bun.

If Bun worsens, you spend the same time for switching, just moved a bit later, and got to use Bun for a little longer.

Re: I am worried about Bun

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post #51

I wonder why Anthropic chose to spend money on Bun when they could have easily spend that resource on Go which is fairly easy to use and fast. I'm sure their SWEs could easily everything things in Go. Anyone have insight on why?

My guess: JavaScript runs in the Browser as well as on the OS. That way you can train a model to be able to interact with both fairly simple. You can also see that their harness, claude-code is also written in js. So I guess they are quite invested in that language anyway.

Re: I am worried about Bun

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post #51

I wonder why Anthropic chose to spend money on Bun when they could have easily spend that resource on Go which is fairly easy to use and fast. I'm sure their SWEs could easily everything things in Go. Anyone have insight on why?

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Re: I am worried about Bun

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post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Before the acquisition, Bun had to figure out how to monetize at some point. I think it is insane that people got into a situation where they had committed to a javascript runtime that had to "figure out how to monetize at some point". It is also bizarre that some people are still hopeful despite it being acquired by one of the most enormously unprofitable companies in the most enormously unprofitable sectors of ou…

I know people say it is unprofitable but I wonder if there is a way to verify it is truly is. I will not say any details but I worked for a giant company which was barely making money YoY but somehow the bonuses for heads were bigger and bigger given a proxy metric related to profit. There are way too many ways companies arrange to pay themselves and never be profitable to avoid taxes.

"Profitable" is the wrong metric, really, it's whether it is sustainable - can development continue indefinitely given the current financial situation?

Re: I am worried about Bun

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post #51

I wonder why Anthropic chose to spend money on Bun when they could have easily spend that resource on Go which is fairly easy to use and fast. I'm sure their SWEs could easily everything things in Go. Anyone have insight on why?

Is Claude better with Javascript than it is with Go code? Seems like it could be true.

Re: I am worried about Bun

#60
Ugh. I hate these "guilt by association" hit pieces. Nothing is wrong and yet we must signal our virtue.

Might as well just open our pants and wave our wangers, hoping for a better world

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