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Re: Days without GitHub incidents

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Post by otterley »

VirusNewbie wrote: post #36
otterley wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let me ask the question in reverse: what do you have against them such that the fellow human beings struggling to maintain their operations don’t deserve even a modicum of kindness, respect, and good will? Are you unable to separate the business from the hard working people behind it? It’s not like they don’t know that people like us are counting on them: they recognize that their service is the “dial tone” for much…

Executives have made a choice to not pay for top talent at Microsoft Azure and Github.

Would you consider telling this to the people working at GitHub directly? I’m sure they’d appreciate your evaluation of their skills and talent.

Re: Days without GitHub incidents

#52

Post by turtlebits »

otterley wrote: post #28
dijit wrote: post #8

Lots of apologia for Github here. Aside from the fact that defending a billion-dollar company is a bit strange; especially one that is steward to the the overwhelming majority of open-source software. Maybe that's good-will doing the work? For me it's always been a sour pill to swallow that I have to buy in to a large companies internal politics and practices in order to work on projects I love. I don't feel like I o…

Let me ask the question in reverse: what do you have against them such that the fellow human beings struggling to maintain their operations don’t deserve even a modicum of kindness, respect, and good will? Are you unable to separate the business from the hard working people behind it? It’s not like they don’t know that people like us are counting on them: they recognize that their service is the “dial tone” for much…

#hugops is to your coworkers, not to the nameless big-corps who can't maintain a service for paying customers. You should be raising a shitstorm when things you pay for aren't reliable or unusable.

Hot take, if it's traffic is causing issues, throttle your free-tier, pause signups, or stop giving out free things (like runner time).

Re: Days without GitHub incidents

#53

Post by nout »

dijit wrote: post #8

Lots of apologia for Github here. Aside from the fact that defending a billion-dollar company is a bit strange; especially one that is steward to the the overwhelming majority of open-source software. Maybe that's good-will doing the work? For me it's always been a sour pill to swallow that I have to buy in to a large companies internal politics and practices in order to work on projects I love. I don't feel like I o…

I think it depends if you pay them money. If you do, then you should indeed have strong expectations towards them and hold them accountable. If they provide a free service to you, then it's still reasonable to feel upset, but at the same time you get what you pay for.

Re: Days without GitHub incidents

#54

Post by StableAlkyne »

otterley wrote: post #28
dijit wrote: post #8

Lots of apologia for Github here. Aside from the fact that defending a billion-dollar company is a bit strange; especially one that is steward to the the overwhelming majority of open-source software. Maybe that's good-will doing the work? For me it's always been a sour pill to swallow that I have to buy in to a large companies internal politics and practices in order to work on projects I love. I don't feel like I o…

Let me ask the question in reverse: what do you have against them such that the fellow human beings struggling to maintain their operations don’t deserve even a modicum of kindness, respect, and good will? Are you unable to separate the business from the hard working people behind it? It’s not like they don’t know that people like us are counting on them: they recognize that their service is the “dial tone” for much…

When did OP blame the people involved personally?

If I to hire a contractor to redo my roof, and that roof leaks, whether they worked hard or not is immaterial. They did not do the task in they were paid to do. I'm not going to buy their services again just because their shingles guy was particularly charming.

MS has talented engineers, but that's a complete misdirection. Github is a service in decline: there is nothing wrong with criticizing them.

Re: Days without GitHub incidents

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Post by jasonmp85 »

wilg wrote: post #48
dijit wrote: post #8

Lots of apologia for Github here. Aside from the fact that defending a billion-dollar company is a bit strange; especially one that is steward to the the overwhelming majority of open-source software. Maybe that's good-will doing the work? For me it's always been a sour pill to swallow that I have to buy in to a large companies internal politics and practices in order to work on projects I love. I don't feel like I o…

Using "apologia" here is pretty embarrassing.

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Re: Days without GitHub incidents

#57

Post by qotgalaxy »

otterley wrote: post #45
logicchains wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>What happened to #hugops? Does it go out the window because those people happen to work for a company you don’t like? Would you feel the same way about a colleague who kept causing downtime in your product again and again, seemingly without making any progress in addressing whatever issue was causing their repeated mistakes? There are web applications out there that are far more complex than GitHub but have much les…

You don’t know that it was “their mistake.” Unless you’ve personally successfully scaled a suite of nontrivial services equivalent to GitHub’s to accommodate an unexpected 14x increase in traffic, you respectfully have no basis for such an assertion.

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Re: Days without GitHub incidents

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Post by falcor84 »

otterley wrote: post #51
VirusNewbie wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Executives have made a choice to not pay for top talent at Microsoft Azure and Github.

Would you consider telling this to the people working at GitHub directly? I’m sure they’d appreciate your evaluation of their skills and talent.

There are two options, either they are lousy at their jobs, or they are incapable of pushing back against unrealistic demands. Neither is a good indicator of their skill and talent as engineers.

I know I am speaking from a position of some privilege, but I have previously left workplaces that did not allow me to practice good engineering, and I do expect others to do so.

Re: Days without GitHub incidents

#60

Post by bluetidepro »

kedihacker wrote: post #3

I don't think aggregating the whole platform into one number is fair. It's like adding the whole aws into one number

It’s obviously a meme website, the meme is more funny when the number isn’t high. Anyone looking for actual accurate info would go to the real status page.
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