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Re: Days without GitHub incidents

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It's not great. Just talked to a hubber last week. They said everyone inside feels pretty dejected right now, and these posts don't help. I feel for them -- with AI coders submitting 25 PRs within an hour of an issue being filed, GitHub bears the brunt of that along with the maintainers. That's a lot of work that gets done with each PR. But they need to make some changes quickly.

I wouldn't feel too bad for them with their top-of-market comp and valuable RSU packages.

I don't believe they pay top of market, but even if they did, it's possible to make a lot of money and still feel bad when you have a sense of ownership and responsibility to the users of your service.

Re: Days without GitHub incidents

#42
post #8

Lots of apologia for Github here. Aside from the fact that defending a billion-dollar company is a bit strange; especially one that is steward to the the overwhelming majority of open-source software. Maybe that's good-will doing the work? For me it's always been a sour pill to swallow that I have to buy in to a large companies internal politics and practices in order to work on projects I love. I don't feel like I o…

Let me ask the question in reverse: what do you have against them such that the fellow human beings struggling to maintain their operations don’t deserve even a modicum of kindness, respect, and good will? Are you unable to separate the business from the hard working people behind it? It’s not like they don’t know that people like us are counting on them: they recognize that their service is the “dial tone” for much…

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Re: Days without GitHub incidents

#44
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not great. Just talked to a hubber last week. They said everyone inside feels pretty dejected right now, and these posts don't help. I feel for them -- with AI coders submitting 25 PRs within an hour of an issue being filed, GitHub bears the brunt of that along with the maintainers. That's a lot of work that gets done with each PR. But they need to make some changes quickly.

The whole "anyone can submit a PR" thing has been a UX issue from day one. That probably needs to go away, and I doubt anyone would really miss it. Where Github could help is by providing a means to build trust that doesn't involve random unknown people slinging code at projects.

Any sort of trust requirement would break the entire model and cause some serious inequality.

How would a random kid in a 3rd world country ever get noticed enough to enter a trust circle, for example?

Re: Days without GitHub incidents

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let me ask the question in reverse: what do you have against them such that the fellow human beings struggling to maintain their operations don’t deserve even a modicum of kindness, respect, and good will? Are you unable to separate the business from the hard working people behind it? It’s not like they don’t know that people like us are counting on them: they recognize that their service is the “dial tone” for much…

>What happened to #hugops? Does it go out the window because those people happen to work for a company you don’t like? Would you feel the same way about a colleague who kept causing downtime in your product again and again, seemingly without making any progress in addressing whatever issue was causing their repeated mistakes? There are web applications out there that are far more complex than GitHub but have much les…

You don’t know that it was “their mistake.” Unless you’ve personally successfully scaled a suite of nontrivial services equivalent to GitHub’s to accommodate an unexpected 14x increase in traffic, you respectfully have no basis for such an assertion.

Re: Days without GitHub incidents

#47
post #6

Supposedly commits on GitHub are up 14x YoY.

14x is insane, especially since the quality and quantity of IRL software has barely budged. One could hope that we'd use these newfound agentic coding powers to actually realize value, improve quality, etc. Instead I see enshittification and stagnation. What are we even doing with all these tokens?

The same thing we’ve done with every other productivity increase in a world based on unfettered growth: garbage.

Re: Days without GitHub incidents

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post #8

Lots of apologia for Github here. Aside from the fact that defending a billion-dollar company is a bit strange; especially one that is steward to the the overwhelming majority of open-source software. Maybe that's good-will doing the work? For me it's always been a sour pill to swallow that I have to buy in to a large companies internal politics and practices in order to work on projects I love. I don't feel like I o…

Using "apologia" here is pretty embarrassing.

Re: Days without GitHub incidents

#49
post #8

Lots of apologia for Github here. Aside from the fact that defending a billion-dollar company is a bit strange; especially one that is steward to the the overwhelming majority of open-source software. Maybe that's good-will doing the work? For me it's always been a sour pill to swallow that I have to buy in to a large companies internal politics and practices in order to work on projects I love. I don't feel like I o…

> Maybe that's good-will doing the work? Of course. GitHub has been an enormous gift to the open source community. Arguably more than Git itself. They deserve a lot of good will.

https://xkcd.com/1150/

Re: Days without GitHub incidents

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post #20
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I wonder what morale is like at github. This is like gamer level hating

It's not great. Just talked to a hubber last week. They said everyone inside feels pretty dejected right now, and these posts don't help. I feel for them -- with AI coders submitting 25 PRs within an hour of an issue being filed, GitHub bears the brunt of that along with the maintainers. That's a lot of work that gets done with each PR. But they need to make some changes quickly.

But the amount of compute needed to serve is not very high. It's all text. The amount of bandwidth and compute needed to serve a Netflix or YouTube is far far harder and they managed just fine.
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