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Removable batteries in smartphones will be mandatory in the EU starting in 2027

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Re: Removable batteries in smartphones will be mandatory in the EU starting in 2027

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post #25

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Timex has been making iron-man watches held together with Philips-head screws that can withstand 100 meters of water pressure since the mid-1980s. Waterproofing is no excuse for this nonsense.

I once had a cheap Timex watch die from water ingress after running a track workout during a torrential downpour. At the time I joked that it only failed because we ran farther than the 100m rating

Is there any chance it was counterfeit (Timexx or so)

Re: Removable batteries in smartphones will be mandatory in the EU starting in 2027

#182

The number of people worried about a slightly thicker phone are absolutely baffling to me. I honestly think there is no hope for us broadly. Normally I'd say that people cannot deal with minor inconveniences -- but this does not even register as an inconvenience. From my view, this is a _perceived_ downgrade in luxury status. Not even a real downgrade in luxury status -- and not a downgrade in convenience whatsoever.

I would also consider swapping a battery once every four years a minor inconvenience.

Re: Removable batteries in smartphones will be mandatory in the EU starting in 2027

#183
post #131

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Tell that to boat hull riveters

You'd be really interested to learn the difference between a rivet and a screw.

Rivets use holes, exactly the thing the parent mentioned about not being waterproof.

Re: Removable batteries in smartphones will be mandatory in the EU starting in 2027

#184
post #7

There's an exception for batteries that "retain at least 80% of its original capacity after 1,000 charge cycles." Coincidentally, iPhones and probably other flagships already qualify for this exception.

I wonder who’s gonna verify the claims about holding or not holdings 80% charge after 1000 cycles.

And what consequences will there be for whoever lies.

Re: Removable batteries in smartphones will be mandatory in the EU starting in 2027

#185

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And 4 years old... I wouldn't buy this new

There's a new model the 7 pro https://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_xcover7_pro-13780.php

No 3.5mm jack though :-/

Re: Removable batteries in smartphones will be mandatory in the EU starting in 2027

#186
post #164

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yes exactly my point, I dont want to wait to charge up my device with another device. I just want to pop in a fresh 100% battery. It used to be so simple.

My powerbrick connects to the back of my phone. Form factor wise it's pretty close to my extra large StarTac removable battery that I would carry around.

Bully for you!

Id like my user replaceable 100% full batteries back if its ok with you?

Re: Removable batteries in smartphones will be mandatory in the EU starting in 2027

#188

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Oh yeah so it's utter trash and not worthy of our attention. Imagine carrying a whole 58 grams more, during a whole day, impossible for the average tech worker's atrophied muscles

FFS. Everything is a compromise. People who want smaller and lighter are not more wrong than those who want battery and physical protection.

Erm, I mean they kind of are given the massive externalities non user serviceable parts causes.

Re: Removable batteries in smartphones will be mandatory in the EU starting in 2027

#189
post #74

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There is not waterproofing, on any phone. Yes, when you buy it, no after 3 years when the glue that waterproofs no longer sticks due to ageing.

I'm kinda surprised with esim, wireless charging and Bluetooth noones just made a phone with a solid layer of glass completely surrounding it for 100% waterproofing

A lack of physical port makes troubleshooting more difficult. Apple didn’t remove the diagnostic port from their watches until the series 7. Also I think certain governments require that phones have a USB-C port.

Re: Removable batteries in smartphones will be mandatory in the EU starting in 2027

#190

While sounding nice in theory, these sorts of regulations will certainly curtail innovation while providing very, very little value elsewhere. If people wanted removable batteries in their phones, they would buy them a lot. They don't.

Nonsense. It just mandates easier repairability and spare parts availability, not ad-hoc replacement. Also this does not apply if the battery is able to retain 80% of its original capacity after 1,000 charge cycles so "innovative" manufacturers just need to use high quality batteries.
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