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Removable batteries in smartphones will be mandatory in the EU starting in 2027

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Re: Removable batteries in smartphones will be mandatory in the EU starting in 2027

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As others have mentioned this is for phones with batteries that can’t survive a reasonable number of cycles. That’s a reasonable exemption, in my opinion. I don’t want to pay the extra penalties of reduced structural rigidity and water tightness for a battery that I don’t need to replace for 3-4 years anyway. I do wish one manufacturer would make a flagship phone with replaceable battery so all of the uncompromising…

Many flagship phones promise 7 years of security updates now. 3-4 years means the battery will only last for half that time, and heavy users (1 cycle per day) will hit that quota in under 2.75 years.

Importantly “last” means that it will have at least 80% battery capacity left.

Re: Removable batteries in smartphones will be mandatory in the EU starting in 2027

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My low-cost plastic Casio watch based on a very old design is waterproof and battery can be swapped out by undoing 4 philips screws, no glue. Its buttons can also be operated under water while staying waterproof. What is this whicraft?

I normally much prefer screws over glue but Apple has at least been using repair-friendly glue like the electrically debonding adhesive in use for iPhone 16e/17e.

Friendly for who? I certainly cant electrically debond chemical compounds, but I sure do know how to undo a screw.

Re: Removable batteries in smartphones will be mandatory in the EU starting in 2027

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An Apple product manager just fainted at the thought of a user taking a screwdriver to an iPhone.

not if they manage to find a screw head that can only be opened by a clean, minimalist, proprietary, expensive Apple screwdriver

You joke but...

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Lukyamzn-P2-P5-P6-Pentalobe-Scre...

At first it looks like a normal torx head, but then you realize it has 5 lobes instead of 6. Apple used these on early iPhone models when you actually could open them with this proprietary screwdriver.

Re: Removable batteries in smartphones will be mandatory in the EU starting in 2027

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I actually never did. I think you're only supposed to replace it on those scuba-style watches with screw-on casebacks that shred the gasket when fully tightened to ensure a tight seal. But on those watches with 4 screws on the case, the gasket seemed fine to me to keep reusing.

I think a lot of sealing rings / gaskets are meant to be single use. I had to swap the heater on my hot tub a while back and the store told me to change the o-rings on the inlet and outlet as it was unlikely the prior ones would re-seal after being loosened.

That's common on high-pressure systems. It's not very common on diving-depth water-proof equipment.

Re: Removable batteries in smartphones will be mandatory in the EU starting in 2027

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i’m ok with this and an $80 battery replacement in exchange for better waterproofing

My low-cost plastic Casio watch based on a very old design is waterproof and battery can be swapped out by undoing 4 philips screws, no glue. Its buttons can also be operated under water while staying waterproof. What is this whicraft?

The buttons can’t be operated underwater. You’ve been lucky thus far. Casio asks you not to use the buttons underwater.

https://www.casio-intl.com/asia/en/wat/water_resistance/

> Even if a watch is water-resistant, do not operate its buttons or crown while it is submersed in water or wet.

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Why does the Pentalobe exist in the first place?

in one product design i did, unironically because the customer thought that six-star screws were antisemitic

Antisemitic geometry. Now I've seen everything

Imagine the lasting havoc the Nazis could have wrought if they adopted a + instead of a swastika

Re: Removable batteries in smartphones will be mandatory in the EU starting in 2027

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IP68, replaceable battery, phone jack, 5G: https://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_xcover6_pro-11600.php

And 4 years old... I wouldn't buy this new

There's a new model the 7 pro https://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_xcover7_pro-13780.php

Re: Removable batteries in smartphones will be mandatory in the EU starting in 2027

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The number of people worried about a slightly thicker phone are absolutely baffling to me. I honestly think there is no hope for us broadly. Normally I'd say that people cannot deal with minor inconveniences -- but this does not even register as an inconvenience. From my view, this is a _perceived_ downgrade in luxury status. Not even a real downgrade in luxury status -- and not a downgrade in convenience whatsoever.

> this does not even register as an inconvenience

You don’t have any idiosyncratic product preferences?

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