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Removable batteries in smartphones will be mandatory in the EU starting in 2027

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Re: Removable batteries in smartphones will be mandatory in the EU starting in 2027

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Post by spankibalt »

matchbok3 wrote: post #53

While sounding nice in theory, these sorts of regulations will certainly curtail innovation while providing very, very little value elsewhere. If people wanted removable batteries in their phones, they would buy them a lot. They don't.

> "If people wanted removable batteries in their phones, they would buy them a lot. They don't."

For that to happen there obviously needs to be a supply worth writing home about. Furthermore, speaking purely for myself, a removable battery is not a must but a nice-to-have. A lot of slabs that have removable batteries are out of the game for entirely different reasons.

Re: Removable batteries in smartphones will be mandatory in the EU starting in 2027

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Post by matchbok3 »

mossTechnician wrote: post #61
matchbok3 wrote: post #53

While sounding nice in theory, these sorts of regulations will certainly curtail innovation while providing very, very little value elsewhere. If people wanted removable batteries in their phones, they would buy them a lot. They don't.

Which flagship phones with replaceable batteries can customers buy? Samsung was the last major brand in the US to have one, and they made the choice to remove it.

Not sure. But there are plenty of flip phones with removable batteries.

Re: Removable batteries in smartphones will be mandatory in the EU starting in 2027

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Post by GoToRO »

foolfoolz wrote: post #16
wmf wrote: post #7

There's an exception for batteries that "retain at least 80% of its original capacity after 1,000 charge cycles." Coincidentally, iPhones and probably other flagships already qualify for this exception.

i’m ok with this and an $80 battery replacement in exchange for better waterproofing

There is not waterproofing, on any phone. Yes, when you buy it, no after 3 years when the glue that waterproofs no longer sticks due to ageing.

Re: Removable batteries in smartphones will be mandatory in the EU starting in 2027

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Post by matchbok3 »

spankibalt wrote: post #71
matchbok3 wrote: post #53

While sounding nice in theory, these sorts of regulations will certainly curtail innovation while providing very, very little value elsewhere. If people wanted removable batteries in their phones, they would buy them a lot. They don't.

> "If people wanted removable batteries in their phones, they would buy them a lot. They don't." For that to happen there obviously needs to be a supply worth writing home about. Furthermore, speaking purely for myself, a removable battery is not a must but a nice-to-have. A lot of slabs that have removable batteries are out of the game for entirely different reasons.

So really it's not about phones having a removable battery, but a whole host of other features plus a removable battery. Which is just untenable from a regulatory POV.

Re: Removable batteries in smartphones will be mandatory in the EU starting in 2027

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Post by fragmede »

ryandrake wrote: post #70
joe_mamba wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My low-cost plastic Casio watch based on a very old design is waterproof and battery can be swapped out by undoing 4 philips screws, no glue. Its buttons can also be operated under water while staying waterproof. What is this whicraft?

I get it for watches, but I've never understood the mass-market need for a waterproof phone, outside of a few niche hobbies. Are people showering and swimming with their phones or something? Or dropping them in their toilets? The wettest my phone has ever been in 8 years is in my pocket while it's raining.

What, you stop refreshing HN while you're showing?

Re: Removable batteries in smartphones will be mandatory in the EU starting in 2027

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

ryandrake wrote: post #70
joe_mamba wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My low-cost plastic Casio watch based on a very old design is waterproof and battery can be swapped out by undoing 4 philips screws, no glue. Its buttons can also be operated under water while staying waterproof. What is this whicraft?

I get it for watches, but I've never understood the mass-market need for a waterproof phone, outside of a few niche hobbies. Are people showering and swimming with their phones or something? Or dropping them in their toilets? The wettest my phone has ever been in 8 years is in my pocket while it's raining.

Life happens, people want the assurance that their phone isn’t necessarily e-garbage after an accidental dunk.

Re: Removable batteries in smartphones will be mandatory in the EU starting in 2027

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Post by ThrowawayR2 »

wmf wrote: post #7

There's an exception for batteries that "retain at least 80% of its original capacity after 1,000 charge cycles." Coincidentally, iPhones and probably other flagships already qualify for this exception.

Doesn't seem like a problem. Assuming the phone needs recharging every 3 days, that's 80% capacity remaining after ~8.2 years; longer than the OS is likely to be supported. Assuming a recharge every 2 days, that's 80% capacity remaining after ~5.5 years.

Re: Removable batteries in smartphones will be mandatory in the EU starting in 2027

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Post by brettermeier »

matchbok3 wrote: post #53

While sounding nice in theory, these sorts of regulations will certainly curtail innovation while providing very, very little value elsewhere. If people wanted removable batteries in their phones, they would buy them a lot. They don't.

I absolutely would buy a Samsung Smartphone with replacable battery. The last one which had this was the S5 I think...

Re: Removable batteries in smartphones will be mandatory in the EU starting in 2027

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Post by luqtas »

i_am_jl wrote: post #54
joe_mamba wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My low-cost plastic Casio watch based on a very old design is waterproof and battery can be swapped out by undoing 4 philips screws, no glue. Its buttons can also be operated under water while staying waterproof. What is this whicraft?

An Apple product manager just fainted at the thought of a user taking a screwdriver to an iPhone.

not if they manage to find a screw head that can only be opened by a clean, minimalist, proprietary, expensive Apple screwdriver
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