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Re: GameStop makes $55.5B takeover offer for eBay

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There is precedent for this kind of trickery being played. For example, Honeywell acquired Garrett AiResearch, a well known manufacturer of turbochargers for combustion engines, through a series of mergers. Later on, it loaded them up with debt (over $1.5 billion, mostly asbestos related indemnity obligations from other parts of the business), before spinning them out as an independent entity again. Two years later,…

So you mean...marrying someone but transfer all the personal debt to the others, then divorcing so that I have no responsibility whatsoever? Not even an obligation to settle for the debt just like disappeared through an expired relationship?

Is there a legal term for this kind of restructuring of debt?

Re: GameStop makes $55.5B takeover offer for eBay

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I don't think this is a serious assessment. For years, the core business of both companies has been facilitating the flow of used goods. Gamestop has moved strongly into collectibles recently, with a partnership with collectible grading firm PSA and the introduction of (essentially) lucrative trading card lootboxes, whereas eBay has capitalized on the same expansion of the collectibles market with new live/flash auct…

They are wildly different businesses. Ebay is not in the business of holding physical goods, they are a marketplace that connects buys, sellers, and shippers and adjudicates fraud, collects funds, handles taxes, etc. They are not a warehouse. Gatestop is a retail operation that buys and sells goods. It takes on all the liability for fake products, it puts capital on the line to purchase used goods, it is a totally di…

That’s not correct. eBay owns TCGplayer which has large warehouses and does direct shipping & fulfilment sales (tcgdirect).

Re: GameStop makes $55.5B takeover offer for eBay

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There is no way that this deal will go through. However, it is good publicity stunt! Their offer is only 20% above the current share price, and they don't have nearly enough funding to complete the transaction. I would love to know what rate TD Securities is willing to lend? What would be the spread over 3month USD LIBOR? I assume 300-500 bps.

Re: GameStop makes $55.5B takeover offer for eBay

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A lot of the comments here seem to assume that a smaller public company can’t acquire a larger one, which just isn’t true. A quick search for how leveraged acquisitions, stock-for-stock deals, financing commitments, or tender offers work would answer most of the objections. Is it too much to ask the Hacker News commentariat to do one quick search before collectively declaring that something they don’t understand is i…

I imagine the vast majority of us do not have a problem understanding smaller companies can buy larger ones. Most of us are just incredulous that anyone is taking GameStop, especially Cohen, seriously.

Re: GameStop makes $55.5B takeover offer for eBay

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If I understand correctly, I think the collectibles market is more in line with what GameStop is looking at here. They recently got into the trading card game including grading services via PSA.

Is that market really that large? That sounds very niche, but I don’t know the collectible world

Yes, so much so that cards that were sold at retail in 2024 after grading sold went from around $100 in cost to well over $1000 in 18 months, and this was me making the market. The prices have since 2.5x-ed on the same card (2024 Topps Chrome Sapphire Base #500 PSA 10). It's correcting a little, but a 10x rise on a card that is effectively not considered limited edition and most had placed in storage suddenly 10x and then 2.5x is quite rare, especially since it's a new card.

These are just public sales. Private deals are done with agents on both sides routinely and without any reportage. There's an element of gambling to most transactions but on the origination side, mostly because Topps, who owns licenses to the major sports leagues, are neither timely nor accurate in posting pack configuration odds, and seems to somehow have nobody competent enough to properly ensure that the same cards don't all get clustered in the same box. On multiple occasions I've bought cases where 3 out of 10 cards of a player were pulled, and multiple 2/10s. The checklist is only 100 cards. The case had 384 cards total. It's downright negligent, but screw the consumers, right? Thanks, Lina Khan, for making it all happen.

There's money to be made but it's a lot of dumb money mixed in with some very sharp acquisitions. Who knows how it'll play out. The market is inefficient largely because USPS is effectively a crapshoot in a time-sensitive market. The likes of Courtyard.io have only partially caught on, and ArenaClub, their competitor, ran for 2 years where a bookmarkelet allowed the user to turn what was supposed to be a random draw into a completely predictable purchase at way below market. Upon reporting, they just added a line in their ToS that put users in theory on notice. They did not fix the bug. They don't even have a SECURITY.md. The company served so much unnecessary data on their API that I now have Steve Nash's personal cell number, among others, before they designed their front page.

There's a gold rush going on but this really should be a hedge. At some point the market correction will screw over a ton of people.

Re: GameStop makes $55.5B takeover offer for eBay

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It's the leveraged buyout playbook. You buy a company and use its own assets to secure a loan. Then you "find efficiencies" (strip it for parts to pay yourself and the creditors).

In this case, if the deal goes through at the price given, eBay's liquid assets are untouched. The cash portion is paid out entirely through the loan and Gamestop's cash.

> $20 billion in debt financing

This debt will carried by company resulting from merge. It might be not classic leveraged buyout but if they have any trouble with repaying it, it will end in asset liquidation all the same.

Re: GameStop makes $55.5B takeover offer for eBay

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ebay is still "old internet", and genuinely useful and well built. enshittification is incoming...

Have you used eBay in the last few years? It's awful for sellers and awful for buyers. This is coming from somebody who buys on eBay twice a month on average.

I use it more frequently than Amazon for used books and DVDs. It's cheaper and the sellers are often exactly the same.

Re: GameStop makes $55.5B takeover offer for eBay

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Important background: https://investor.gamestop.com/news-releases/news-details/202... CEO gets paid "only if GameStop achieves a market capitalization of $20 billion." Buying a $55bn company would certainly achieve that quickly. I'm not sure how they'd manage that (buy with what? Memes?), other than the should-be-illegal process of putting debt on the acquired company's balance sheet.

I’m disappointed and surprised you left out half of the conditions that grant him this compensation and only included one that suggests that all he has to do is buy a bigger company with GME stock:

“ The award is divided into nine tranches that are eligible to vest only if the Company achieves both a “Market Capitalization Hurdle” and a corresponding “Cumulative Performance EBITDA Hurdle”.”

This changes basically everything. He can’t just buy any bigger company. The company has to earn way more cash flow as well.

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