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It's newly issued stock, a common form of making acquisitions cheaper
How is a 20bn company going to issue 27bn worth of stock? Or are they just going to pretend the newly issued shares are valued the same per share as existing stock is right now?
GameStop makes $55.5B takeover offer for eBay
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Re: GameStop makes $55.5B takeover offer for eBay
#42A lot of the comments here seem to assume that a smaller public company can’t acquire a larger one, which just isn’t true. A quick search for how leveraged acquisitions, stock-for-stock deals, financing commitments, or tender offers work would answer most of the objections. Is it too much to ask the Hacker News commentariat to do one quick search before collectively declaring that something they don’t understand is i…
Example from quite some time ago: Avast buying AVG. The value of AVG was around twice that of Avast.
Re: GameStop makes $55.5B takeover offer for eBay
#43I guess if people use eBay a lot to sell used games then there is something of an overlap there. Otherwise, it seems pretty weird.
That sneaker company that pivoted to data centers set the 'weird' bar pretty high. GameStop has physical stores so could be a place to send, collect from or even verify high value eBay items.
Re: GameStop makes $55.5B takeover offer for eBay
#44I guess if people use eBay a lot to sell used games then there is something of an overlap there. Otherwise, it seems pretty weird.
That sneaker company that pivoted to data centers set the 'weird' bar pretty high. GameStop has physical stores so could be a place to send, collect from or even verify high value eBay items.
Re: GameStop makes $55.5B takeover offer for eBay
#45GameStop doesn't have (even close to) $55.5B. Their offer from the letter is literally impossible: > Our offer is $125.00 per share, comprising 50% cash and 50% GameStop common stock Even if you magically included all existing GameStop stock in the offer, it still would not comprise 50% of $55.5B. EDIT: looks like it's not impossible and I misunderstood. It's a proposed change of leadership with a $25B injection of c…
Isn’t that just a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leveraged_buyout ?
Re: GameStop makes $55.5B takeover offer for eBay
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Well, his argument is that he can remove inefficiencies in the combined company. GME is ~12B, EBAY is ~46B (58 total) with net income of 0.4B and 2B (2.4 total). If he boosts profit by 1.2B then it's nearly a 50% increase and probably going to result in a more valuable combined company despite the debt.
He can argue that. But to me it seems more likely that culture and market demands are so different between the two companies that sharing any substantial resources would be to the detriment of at least one of the two halves. And more likely detrimental to both The most beneficial thing is how even proposing this shifts peoples' perception of Gamestop from a beloved but struggling brick and mortar chain to a successfu…
Re: GameStop makes $55.5B takeover offer for eBay
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, that goes into the '50% cash' part of the offer. With a 20B credit line and 7.5B cash from their own coffers (which they claim to have, so let's believe them on their word there), you cover the cash portion. The issue is the non-cash portion of the offer. They claim that the remaining 27.5B is covered by GameStop stock. But that's more than double the market cap of GameStop.
Are they under any obligation to ground the value of their own stock or can a salesman simply claim that the "true" value of that stock is much much more than it currently seems to be?
Re: GameStop makes $55.5B takeover offer for eBay
#48GameStop doesn't have (even close to) $55.5B. Their offer from the letter is literally impossible: > Our offer is $125.00 per share, comprising 50% cash and 50% GameStop common stock Even if you magically included all existing GameStop stock in the offer, it still would not comprise 50% of $55.5B. EDIT: looks like it's not impossible and I misunderstood. It's a proposed change of leadership with a $25B injection of c…
Re: GameStop makes $55.5B takeover offer for eBay
#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, that goes into the '50% cash' part of the offer. With a 20B credit line and 7.5B cash from their own coffers (which they claim to have, so let's believe them on their word there), you cover the cash portion. The issue is the non-cash portion of the offer. They claim that the remaining 27.5B is covered by GameStop stock. But that's more than double the market cap of GameStop.
Are they under any obligation to ground the value of their own stock or can a salesman simply claim that the "true" value of that stock is much much more than it currently seems to be?
Also, eBay shareholders can vote down the acquisition if they don't think the deal is good for them.
Re: GameStop makes $55.5B takeover offer for eBay
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Wouldn’t that debt knock down the market cap as much as the value Otherwise take out a $20b loan and put it in the bank. Assets increase $20b, job done.
Well, his argument is that he can remove inefficiencies in the combined company. GME is ~12B, EBAY is ~46B (58 total) with net income of 0.4B and 2B (2.4 total). If he boosts profit by 1.2B then it's nearly a 50% increase and probably going to result in a more valuable combined company despite the debt.
GameStop had revenues of $3bn last year and eBay was $10-12bn, so combined it's $13-15bn. A net income increase of 1.2bn on that gross is a tall order for M&A efficiencies. Especially difficult when the two companies have essentially zero operational crossover, besides business admin. It doesn't seem likely to me that merging eBay's accounting/legal departments into GME's (and similar efficiency gains) is going to save anything close to a billion across the two entities.