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First Tesla Semi Rolls Off High-Volume Production Line

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Re: First Tesla Semi Rolls Off High-Volume Production Line

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"High volume"? Coming from Tesla, I'll believe it after they actually ship a high volume of those units.

The Model Y is neck-and-neck with the Toyota RAV4 as the most widely sold car model in the world.

> Toyota RAV4, the most widely sold car model in the world.

Nope.

Widely sold cars are the likes of e.g Toyota Corolla, VW Golf, Honda Civic, Ford Fiesta, Toyota Camry and Hilux. The other reply gives the link. The RAV4 isn't ones of these.

Re: First Tesla Semi Rolls Off High-Volume Production Line

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Correct. And tire dust increases because electric vehicles are usually heavier

I doubt that's the case in America where gas-powered cars (/ trucks) are also huge and heavy. A Model 3 weighs less than a Ford 150.

And a mini cooper weighs less than a semi. The thread you are in is about Semis.

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(which electric cars and trucks also reduce, because of regenerative braking)

My father who owns an electric car (I don't) told me that the increased torque eats away the tires much faster. Not sure how connected to the reality that is.

Correct, but I would say that is user error. You don't HAVE to accelerate faster.

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The Tesla semi is the only truck with a 500 mile range. So it does have an advantage over other electric trucks for long-haul trucking.

500 miles with what load? Pepe's Towing, the heavy towing company in LA with a very popular YouTube channel, has two questions for drivers whose trucks need to be recovered or uprighted - "What's your cargo?", and "How much does it weigh?". (Pepe's comments that most drivers who roll over a truck cannot answer either question, which has a lot to do with why they rolled over.)

> 500 miles with what load?

Since cargo is enclosed on most semis, assuming identical trailers load doesn't really matter. Aging Wheels has a video on testing that in the silverado ev and got about 5%: https://www.youtu.be/UmKf8smvGsA

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The Tesla semi is the only truck with a 500 mile range. So it does have an advantage over other electric trucks for long-haul trucking.

500 miles with what weight?

Doesn't really matter, load is a really small factor in EV range.

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It's not newsworthy. There are more than a dozen companies shipping electric semis in low quantities, and at least three who have been shipping and supporting them for years. Anybody who thinks this the Tesla Semi is notable should go learn about the existing market. Tesla announced this thing a decade ago and they rolled one off of a theoretical line. Who cares? There's nothing new here. There's no new information a…

Of course its newsworthy if the company making the most electric cars in the world has setup a factory to produce semis and produced at least one after years of testing with actual customers that say they are very happy at seemingly very competitive pricing. To say its NOT newsworthy betrays a bias against Tesla which I would assume has nothing to do with actual facts.

I agree that this is mildly interesting. But wanted to say BYD produces the most electric cars.

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Doesn't regenerative braking reduce brake dust, not tire dust?

Correct. And tire dust increases because electric vehicles are usually heavier

For semis this is irrelevant, as the GVWR is pretty much the same so EV mostly means you get limited on payload weight: in the US the feds increase GVWR limit by 2000 lbs (from 80k to 82k) for EV semis, but not every state has legalised that, and it's barely noticeable (EU has a much more aggressive bye, from 40 to 44 tonnes).

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A 30 minute charge means each charger can service a maximum of 48 tractors per day, and realistically probably less than that. I wonder how many trucks fill at a typical diesel filling station per day.

Have you seen the demo's of "truck pack" batteries being removed from prime mover, transferred to charge station, replaced with already charged truck pack, all done with a mini fork lift? It's a 15 minute roll in / roll out kind of turn around. The game's not over and the big transport operators (eg: Rio Tinto mine fleets moving a billion tonne per annum, etc) are still doing the R&D pipeline and trialling pilots.

> It's a 15 minute roll in / roll out kind of turn around.

Now you just need every gas station in the US to stock a bunch of swappable batteries for every semi brand. It's a great idea s long as you're not bound by any sort of realistic expectation.

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