Interestingly I’ve learned more about languages and systems and tools I use in the last few years working with agentic coding than I did in 35 years of artisanal programming. I am still vastly superior at making decisions about systems and techniques and approaches than the agentic tools, but they are like a really really well read intern who knows a great deal of detail about errata but have very little experience.…
Agentic Coding Is a Trap
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#74I've come to the conclusion that if AI can do it, its not hard. None of the complicated software i work on can be reliably written by ai yet
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#75I've been using AI tools to brainstorm approaches and sometimes generate code, but actually doing the typing myself. That way I'm less likely to forget the mechanics and programming language over time.
If this was an actual paid job, I do wonder how that would change my LLM use. The reason I'm a software developer at all is because I love the craft. The act of building, of using my brain to transform ideas into code... that's what I enjoy. If it was just prompting an LLM, would I still do that job? I don't know. I'd probably start looking into the idea of switching careers, at least.
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#76it's a fairly new way of doing things. I predict, in the future it will be more formalized and standardized like AGILE and SCRUM and all that boring stuff. The result of that though would be establishment of development patterns that are good practices. The rule of thumb is: An agent can write it, but a human has to understand it before it gets pushed to prod. I'm still not convinced about the doom and gloom over dev…
Yeah, likely
> development patterns that are good practices.
Wait, now you lost me
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#77I've been using AI tools to brainstorm approaches and sometimes generate code, but actually doing the typing myself. That way I'm less likely to forget the mechanics and programming language over time.
The thing is why would forgetting even matter if the AI can just remind you of anything that you forgot?
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#78Im seeing the word "agentic" a lot here. Is there a difference between "Agentic Coding" and "I put prompt into gpt or claude and pasted code into my file" ?
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#79The questions came flying in fast, without any introduction, and this was about an external integration out of a dozen. They have their own lingo, different from ours, to make the situation worse.
I had a _very hard time_ making sense of the questions, as I indeed relied heavily on a model to produce these integrations (extremely boring job + external thick specs provided).
I'm still positive these would have simply not happened in a 10x the time if I did not use models, however, I'm now carefuly considering re-documenting the "ohhs" and "aahs" of these so that these kind of uncomfortable moments never happen again.
I haven't felt so clueless and embarassed in a meeting, ever. All I could say was "I'll get back to you on that one, and that one, and this one".
Cognitive debt is very real, and it hurts worse than technical debt on a personal level! Tech debt is shared across the team, cognitive debt is personal, and when you're the guy that built the thing, you should know better!
To be continued... But from now on, the work isn't done if I don't get a little 5 mins flash-card type markdown list of "what is this" and "what is that", type glossary.
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#80Re vendor lock in point: this is a harness issue really. Sure, CC is restricted to Anthropic models, but it's not the only harness out there. So if one vendor has an outage or botches the quality of their models due to compute shortage, you can switch to another vendor. LLMs are the easiest to switch. Of course, if hardware costs go up, so will all AI vendors. The only way out for the employer would be to directly bu…