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Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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Post by trinix912 »

wewewedxfgdf wrote: post #63

The Windows we want: The SAME as Windows 2000 in terms of what is installed. NO TPM REQUIREMENT. Even better: when installing Windows, there should be a "install minimal" option, and if you select it then it should be so fucking minimal - so little on there, that all you get is control panel and a way to install new software - NOTHING more. That's your win, Microsoft. I'm 2000% certain nothing even slightly close to…

There even used to be a "minimal install" option back when installing Windows 95.

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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Post by lpcvoid »

engeljohnb wrote: post #389
lpcvoid wrote: post #374

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The normies are what makes Microslop money, though. We need to get the normies onboard in order to fight MS' stranglehold on computing. Gatekeeping isn't the right move here.

I can't delete my comment now, but I think you're right. I don't consider "take it or leave it" to be gatekeeping, but when the world's biggest corporations pose a threat to software liberty, distros becoming more palatable to average users is strictly a good thing. Not that I'm even involved with distro development anyway. Probably would've been better to let the real OS engineers have the discussion on that one.

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Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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Post by farty357345645 »

just wanted to say that windows is a brilliant piece of software, and i look forward to the efficiency improvements.

as to the naysayers, they were clueless back then, they're clueless today, and they will continue to be clueless as windows gets better and better.

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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Post by ivell »

globalnode wrote: post #79
PeterStuer wrote: post #40

What people realy want: as little OS as possible to let them run just the things on their computer they want to run. What Microsoft wants: Windows as their straightjacket into the Microsoft services as that is where the revenue is. Why Windows got this bad: incentives and coercion placed on the teams to show uptake on the services no matter what leading to perversion in tactics and complete alienation of the user bas…

been on linux for a month now, i found the exit and stepped through it. the pain points change from getting shafted by m$ to doing research and learning how to make the system work. at least the second option gives me some agency, and now its all set up i wish i had of switched sooner! ive got to say valve is doing the lords work, along with all the other linux enthusiasts.

To be frank, I have always thought of "Now I switched to Linux and am happy" to be some kind of meme that appears on every Windows discussion.

Until it happened to me last month. The ads in Windows somehow popped up during important Zoom calls and I couldn't find a way to skip or switch off immediately. In addition to that, my paid version of Minecraft stopped working.

Using Windows home edition has now become rage inducing. I had a lot of patience for incompetence, but the intentional disruption of my work for making a few bucks is really something different.

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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Post by alkonaut »

tossandthrow wrote: post #154
alkonaut wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wine is a great thing on Linux too…

Yet again, because it helps avoid windows.

If I run WSL it’s because I try to avoid Linux - but I want to run something that needs a Linux environment. I think the argument about what’s avoiding what is pretty strange.

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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Post by ThrowawayB7 »

irishcoffee wrote: post #110
sagacity wrote: post #81

I recently got locked out of my machine because logging in with the mandatory Microsoft account-backed primary user of my machine didn't work anymore. It said I was offline and I had to use the "previous password" even though I didn't have a previous password for that account. Hacking around in the recovery console to add another administrator user worked, but then I couldn't reset the original user's password becaus…

The day I can’t make a local-only account on windows (for personal use, work is a different matter unfortunately) is the day I stop using windows. It’s irritating enough that new linux installs want me to add accounts. I can skip it, which is nice, but just don’t show the screen. If you’re installing linux you either know what you’re doing or you don’t: if you do you know it’s possible and don’t need it jammed in you…

The funny thing is I actually had Windows 11 reliably black-screen on me after creating a local account. On a recent Surface Pro device, no less.

I blame Nadella. Gates or Ballmer had their own deficiencies but they would never have tolerated the absolute bullshit going on at Microsoft today.

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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Post by chinathrow »

sagacity wrote: post #338
heresie-dabord wrote: post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I can use Linux but I have decades of Windows muscle memory and I do a bunch of DirectX programming. I see a likely inversion of motives here: you earn your living coding or otherwise are deeply vested in Windows, so you are committed for survival to Windows and to fixing the absurd account problem that MSFT has inflicted on you. The expression "muscle memory" here just means the cognitive load of working with a te…

Yeah, so, to be clear: I'm fairly sure Linux will also have its fair share of issues that I occasionally would have to repair. I don't necessarily even have a problem with Windows occasionally needing a bit of hand-holding, either. It sucks, but it's IT so meh, unfortunately it still comes with the territory. What I'm mostly pissed off about is the fact that I have a perfectly useable machine but since I'm unable to…

> Yeah, so, to be clear: I'm fairly sure Linux will also have its fair share of issues that I occasionally would have to repair.

Issues with account, login and passwords would be none of them. Sure, there are other areas of common issues at times, but I have never, ever had issues logging into any of the linux OS I ran for the last 23years or so.

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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Post by irishcoffee »

GeneralMaximus wrote: post #206
irishcoffee wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The day I can’t make a local-only account on windows (for personal use, work is a different matter unfortunately) is the day I stop using windows. It’s irritating enough that new linux installs want me to add accounts. I can skip it, which is nice, but just don’t show the screen. If you’re installing linux you either know what you’re doing or you don’t: if you do you know it’s possible and don’t need it jammed in you…

I don't even want a local account, I just want to be able to set a custom username for my account instead of some autogenerated jumble of letters. My Microsoft Account email is "contact@ ". If I set up a new Windows 11 computer using this account, Windows picks the first 4 letters of my email address and sets that as the username. So my username becomes "conta", and the path to my user directory becomes "C:\Users\con…

Yes, just a username.

“ To create an offline (local) account during Windows 11 setup, disconnect from the internet, then use the command OOBE\BYPASSNRO in the command prompt (Shift+F10) to enable a "I don't have internet" ”

This is what I do. I have heard this has been patched out. My work gives me an MSDN account, and so far I’ve been able to still do this. When this goes away forever and I lose all my ISO’s/access to ISO’s that allow this, I’ll be done with windows forever.

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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Post by Krasnol »

sagacity wrote: post #338
heresie-dabord wrote: post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I can use Linux but I have decades of Windows muscle memory and I do a bunch of DirectX programming. I see a likely inversion of motives here: you earn your living coding or otherwise are deeply vested in Windows, so you are committed for survival to Windows and to fixing the absurd account problem that MSFT has inflicted on you. The expression "muscle memory" here just means the cognitive load of working with a te…

Yeah, so, to be clear: I'm fairly sure Linux will also have its fair share of issues that I occasionally would have to repair. I don't necessarily even have a problem with Windows occasionally needing a bit of hand-holding, either. It sucks, but it's IT so meh, unfortunately it still comes with the territory. What I'm mostly pissed off about is the fact that I have a perfectly useable machine but since I'm unable to…

I don't know where you are but oobe/bypassnro worked for me just 2 weeks ago.

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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Post by nullhole »

kasabali wrote: post #187

> We’ve also made changes to the Power menu so you’ll always see the standard Restart and Shut down options without having to install a pending update first. You decide when updates happen, not the other way around. Great! We've progressed back to Windows XP of 22 years ago.

> You decide when updates happen, not the other way around.

What's the other way around? "Updates decide when you happen"?

Sounds like part of a Yakov Smirnoff joke.

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