I don't own an EV yet, but if I ever do, I don't want a single screen. I don't even want electric windows.
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Mercedes-Benz commits to bringing back physical buttons
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Re: Mercedes-Benz commits to bringing back physical buttons
#72Previous legacy car manufacturer to say so, that I remember, was Mazda in 2019.
They now resell a Chinese EV with a very Tesla model 3 inspired interior.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_6e#/media/File%3AMazda6e...
I didn’t find the original press release but you can find a lot of copies like the following article.
https://www.motoringresearch.com/car-news/mazda-getting-rid-...
Re: Mercedes-Benz commits to bringing back physical buttons
#73There is another thing that reduces the safety of car - it is sunroof.
In India, all top trims come with sunroof.
I believe, sunroof can not provide the safety that of one without sunroof.
More ever, it can absorb significantly more heat compared one without sunroof.
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#74'He also explained that "I'm a big believer in screens, because I really believe if you want to connect, you have to make the magic work behind the screen." ' I am a big believer in keeping "product people" away from UI design for dangerous machinery. The eyes and the attention of the driver should be on the road. All the audio visual noise from the car is just plain dangerous. I don't want my car to draw my attentio…
The low fuel, low wiper fluid, and forward collision warnings sound like they were all implemented a little clumsily.
What do you think the best implementation would look like? Seems it would still have to strike a balance. It's dangerous to tell the driver they're low on fuel if we distract them. But it's also dangerous for a driver to run out of fuel on the highway if we didn't catch their attention.
Also guessing you’re relatively detail oriented and don’t run out of gas, per:
“I don't want my car to draw my attention to itself for anything less than a critical engine/tyre pressure failures.”
The general public though… uh oh!
Re: Mercedes-Benz commits to bringing back physical buttons
#75Too little too late. I was a long time advocate of German cars, owned a bunch of them but after this fuckery with touch screens everywhere I moved to other brands and I’m staying there for the foreseeable future. BMW, Mercedes and VW have really dropped the ball when it comes to usability. At least BMW has a decent OS that kinda makes the whole experience less dreadful than that of the other two.
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#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's pretty weird and indicates your phone or its touchscreen might be defective, you should get it looked at, because other than with old resistive touchscreen phones I've never had capacitive touchscreen phones need multiple presses.
I've had multiple Apple touchscreen products. The same on all of them. Sometimes I have to lick my fingertip to get it to register.
My understanding is that as people age their skin stays drier and causes this issue.
The parent post is a chef’s-kiss-perfect illustration of the problem with modern tech.
Re: Mercedes-Benz commits to bringing back physical buttons
#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
Thats what happens when you put engineers/programmers in charge of UI & UX development. Engineers should be delegated to the worker-bee level and you should just get some gear heads and some soccer moms to design to UI.
> Engineers should be delegated to the worker-bee level and you should just get some gear heads and some soccer moms to design to UI. This, but unironically.
MUST include the elderly.
Big Tech, WTF guys you let gen-z/millennials design your interfaces and ship w/e works for them alone? Seniors have money and can’t use your products
Re: Mercedes-Benz commits to bringing back physical buttons
#78Unmentioned is touchscreens frequently don't work. I often have to make repeated presses on my iphone until it registers. The same with swipes. Since there is no audible or tactile feedback, this cannot work well while keeping your eyes on the road.
Or if, heaven forbid, it's cold where you live and you need to wear gloves.
Re: Mercedes-Benz commits to bringing back physical buttons
#79What I'm surprised by is that cars are chock-full of ornate, unique parts (cupholders are a good example). I would have imagined that car infotainment controls would be a small fraction of the BOM, so I've been wondering if it's not really a cost thing. Sort of like small phones or 3D TVs from the early 2000's.
Also it's the basic user interface of the car, it must figure highly in purchase decisions.
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#80I hope Elon Musk can take a lesson from Mercedes. Tesla went in the other direction: there are barely any physical buttons to remove, so they removed the stalks for signaling and even for changing gear! You have to use the touch screen to shift gears!
Tesla does a great job not having buttons. I think the real issue is that other car companies have bad interfaces that make physical buttons necessary. Tesla just has a great UI that does not need physical buttons.
Even a great UI requires you to take eyes off the road.