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Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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Post by Someone1234 »

duzer65657 wrote: post #203

It is beyond naive, and I don't know how it can be anything but disingenuous to pretend that the top priorities of "Windows Insiders" are sensible defaults, a calm discoverability feed and how AI works in notepad. The reality is this guy obviously got promoted and assigned "win-back OS users" task, in the face of an organization that overwhelming wants to leverage Windows for short-term, user-hostile bumps in AI usag…

Exactly. I mean they literally, in this same release[0], just turned WIN+R (Run) from a classic FAST Win32 UI into a modern slow monstrosity. Who was this for?

I use WIN+R instead of the Start Menu Search/PowerToy's Alt+Space because it is INSTANT and 100% CONSISTENT. You just made my instant thing slower, great, thanks, mission accomplished!

Feels wildly out of touch, to almost a comical degree.

[0] https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2026/05/01/announc...

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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Post by trashface »

sagacity wrote: post #81

I recently got locked out of my machine because logging in with the mandatory Microsoft account-backed primary user of my machine didn't work anymore. It said I was offline and I had to use the "previous password" even though I didn't have a previous password for that account. Hacking around in the recovery console to add another administrator user worked, but then I couldn't reset the original user's password becaus…

FWIW I've done some d3d9 and d3d11 tinkering and my stuff looks like it works pretty good under proton.

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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Post by zombot »

p_ing wrote: post #210
snorremd wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Regularly being presented with a "Set up Windows" after boot forcing you to click "no thanks" on a bunch of Microsoft services is exactly the kind of thing that irritates me. I've politely declined their services about 10 times already, make it stop! When I get tired of Battlefield 6 I'm likely going full Linux. It is simply not worth putting up with Microsoft Windows for gaming. More and more games seem to work eith…

You can disable that behavior in the settings app.

And then Windoze decides it knows better and optimizes your settings right back.

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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Post by itopaloglu83 »

prymitive wrote: post #6

> You want to see what we’re doing, understand our decisions, and see progress through shipping. Second, a shared sense of pride. So basically: - recent changes are all crap - so why did you make them?

Microslop: In service revenue and shareholder dividends we trust.

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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Post by internet2000 »

ninjagoo wrote: post #250

Executive management at MS must be seeing interesting (migration) numbers on their dashboards, so they've gotten involved in white-washing their reputation without changing business strategy, hence the executive-level manifestos and platitudes coming out as of late. I'm sure they see the EU/Worldwide decoupling from US companies as definitely-going-to-happen and they have no control over that, so retaining US consume…

They went all in on pretending to care about quality since the MacBook Neo. The numbers they're seeing must be terrifying.

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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Post by sigseg1v »

theandrewbailey wrote: post #112
PeterStuer wrote: post #40

What people realy want: as little OS as possible to let them run just the things on their computer they want to run. What Microsoft wants: Windows as their straightjacket into the Microsoft services as that is where the revenue is. Why Windows got this bad: incentives and coercion placed on the teams to show uptake on the services no matter what leading to perversion in tactics and complete alienation of the user bas…

> Regaining trust is extremely hard after you've crossed an edge. Microsoft needs to learn consent. Everywhere there's a Yes and "Remind me later", there has to be a No. And the No has to work and be remembered forever, not forgotten after the next update. Using Windows has to stop feeling like you're being roofied all the time.

This is how you can tell that they just don't get it.

Microsoft, your users include developers and power users. We are not all someone's tech illiterate relative who needs constant reminding to check that backups are on, nor do we want to use OneDrive.

If we turn it off, it means off. Updates off = they stay off until turned back on, don't worry, we'll remember. Backup off = it stays off. Edge off = it stays off. Ads off = I don't want ads.

The battle they are fighting is that by using Google, tech illiterate people have found buttons like the ability to disable updates, but don't understand what they're doing, and then leave them off and now their OS becomes part of a botnet in a few months. So Microsoft believes that they are doing a greater good by not offering a real option to actually turn certain things off. But this babysitting behavior is annoying as shit when you want to leave something running that is going to take 6 days. Sure yes put it on a cloud vm. But if I was still using Windows as my OS, why should I have to? Just because your OS can't handle a developer doing something else than using Outlook and OneDrive to store pictures of aunties family get-together?

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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Post by itopaloglu83 »

k3vinw wrote: post #188

I’m most excited for the scheduler and memory footprint improvements. As bad as I hear Windows 11 is, I’ve rarely had issues with it. For the most part it just works and stays out of my way. My only gripes are the occasional forced updates and a rare hard crash that happened once in a span of a year of using it as my daily driver. Well that and I have to be mindful of running too many resource starving processes at t…

I think I’m more bothered by the paper cuts I experience every minute.

Starting from web based start menu taking forever to launch, to everything resisting to you to be in control of your computer.

Some say the speed is fine, but forget that these machines are running at nanosecond level instructions and there’s no reason for a simple task to take milliseconds unless somebody is optimizing for service revenue and user tracking (to be sold later to advertisers, not for user experience improvements).

Microslop is just scared out of mind with the European and Asian countries moving to Linux based platforms to get out of their grip. Can you imagine the amount of intelligence they will loose, and how much harder they will need to work to compete for real after three decades of being the default in everything.

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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Post by Telaneo »

embedding-shape wrote: post #122
theandrewbailey wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Regaining trust is extremely hard after you've crossed an edge. Microsoft needs to learn consent. Everywhere there's a Yes and "Remind me later", there has to be a No. And the No has to work and be remembered forever, not forgotten after the next update. Using Windows has to stop feeling like you're being roofied all the time.

Good luck with that. I have a Windows computer I sometimes have to run stuff on overnight, like renders or what not. I've disabled everything I can related to Windows Update, plus setting "Active hours" or what not, so the computer doesn't reboot because of updates in the middle of the night. Today I woke up, went to check the progress and wouldn't you know, Windows Update updated the computer and rebooted, and what…

I've seen people resorting to disconnecting machines from the internet to prevent this. They load up the software they need, then it never goes online again, so updates can never bother them or otherwise get in the way. The software thus stays exactly as they want it to be. It's an appliance at that point.

It's annoying to have to shuffle files over to it, if that's needed for its job, but I think it's still a worthwhile thing to consider (it's insane that we've gotten to this point, but such is life). If it isn't workable, then fine. But if it is, the hassle of shuffling files using external SSDs or whatever is probably better, or at the very least more consistent, than turning on your machine one day and finding it corrupted itself due to an update, or the software in question got a UI update which breaks your workflow for a month.

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