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Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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post #463

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> a desire to support functionality that some customers expect of VS Code w.r.t. AI-generated code Literally who?

I could easily see companies, especially enterprise-level companies, expect code that was generated with AI to have some level of ownership attributed to that AI. Whether a simple "Co-Authored-by Copilot" byline on the commit is the right way to do that is another question though.

Correct, this was the ask.

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

#562

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> a desire to support functionality that some customers expect of VS Code w.r.t. AI-generated code Literally who?

No one, which is why he refuses to reply further to any of these inquiries.

I don't refuse - what would you like to ask?

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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I am the person who approved this PR and would like to acknowledge and apologize for the mistake of turning this feature on by default without sufficient upfront validation. There was no ill intent by evil corporation, but rather a desire to support functionality that some customers expect of VS Code w.r.t. AI-generated code. As folks mentioned here - many similar tools do this as well. Obviously, it should not be on…

> There was no ill intent by evil corporation, but rather a desire to support functionality that some customers expect of VS Code w.r.t. AI-generated code. As folks mentioned here - many similar tools do this as well. Then make it an extension, not a IDE-behaviour thing. Is that so complicated, so difficult?

It would be tricky, yes, since it depends on core editor functionality which is not exposed through the API.

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

#564

I am the person who approved this PR and would like to acknowledge and apologize for the mistake of turning this feature on by default without sufficient upfront validation. There was no ill intent by evil corporation, but rather a desire to support functionality that some customers expect of VS Code w.r.t. AI-generated code. As folks mentioned here - many similar tools do this as well. Obviously, it should not be on…

Thanks for facing this head-on here; mistakes happen. I think the default to on should also be reconsidered regardless. The assessment (co-authored by AI) may be valid but the assumption the user wants that advertising is exactly that, an assumption, and a dubious one at that.

Thanks. Done here: https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/pull/313931

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

#565

I am the person who approved this PR and would like to acknowledge and apologize for the mistake of turning this feature on by default without sufficient upfront validation. There was no ill intent by evil corporation, but rather a desire to support functionality that some customers expect of VS Code w.r.t. AI-generated code. As folks mentioned here - many similar tools do this as well. Obviously, it should not be on…

> There was no ill intent by evil corporation I simply do not believe you

That's ok :-)

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

#566

I am the person who approved this PR and would like to acknowledge and apologize for the mistake of turning this feature on by default without sufficient upfront validation. There was no ill intent by evil corporation, but rather a desire to support functionality that some customers expect of VS Code w.r.t. AI-generated code. As folks mentioned here - many similar tools do this as well. Obviously, it should not be on…

Have it as an add-on said customers can add. Opt-in, not opt-out. No AI without consent.

Switched back to opt-in here: https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/pull/313931

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I saw a trend of UX/UI designers coming with practice which I knew better were wrong. But they insisted. E.g hijack brosser native controls. Will never know whether they passed along some manager/PM commandements or were just incompetent.

To be fair, the native browser controls have had too many quirks and features fox UX/UI consistency. Corporate needs their Brand™ look precisely as specified in their expensive Style Guide. IBM wouldn't want the Google vibes of Android Material Design TextFields, I imagine. Scratch beneath the visuals, and starker technical differences appear. Safari on iOS (used to?) has a 350ms debounce delay on every tap / click,…

> To be fair, the native browser controls have had too many quirks and features fox UX/UI consistency.

Well, too many to have a single website be consistent across browsers.

But as a user I'm using one specific browsers, and I expect all websites be consistent for that browser.

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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post #52

One fascinating thing about the whole AI phenomenon is how incredibly hostile it is to _standards_. Whether something works properly, or is ethical, or is true, no longer matters at all; all that matters is "pls use our AI". Microsoft spent literal decades rehabilitating their reputation. And then set fire to the whole thing in an offering to their robot gods. And it's not just them. There was a time that Google care…

When I've been working on stuff that requires a SSO login, I noticed that it makes, what I considered, hostile anti-user choices in defaulting to tracking pieces of information I didn't want to track and hadn't mentioned. Fair that I didn't instruct it explicitly to make more pro-user choices, it just seemed to think slurping as much information into the backend was an default intention. Wasted a few more tokens to i…

If you're using Claude, try /grill-me before getting it to start working on things.

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

#569
post #517

This is bad. I need to start Monday warning my team about this and installing validation hooks in our repos that catch any commits with this. We don't have a non-AI policy, but we have an "approved AI" policy due to data security, and having all your commits say "Co-Authored-by Copilot" is more or less the same as as "I ** on infosec". We also have a "short commits message" policy, and that "Co-Authored" thingy takes…

Sorry about that, it's being reverted: https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/pull/313931

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

#570

One fascinating thing about the whole AI phenomenon is how incredibly hostile it is to _standards_. Whether something works properly, or is ethical, or is true, no longer matters at all; all that matters is "pls use our AI". Microsoft spent literal decades rehabilitating their reputation. And then set fire to the whole thing in an offering to their robot gods. And it's not just them. There was a time that Google care…

> There was a time that Google cared deeply about UX.

I’m sure Google cares very much about UX as a funnel into their ad brokerage, but was there some time when they cared about it in the user’s interest?

Maybe that magical moment when the results page showed the results first?

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