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Re: Do_not_track

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Post by ezfe »

slashdev wrote: post #49
0xbadcafebee wrote: post #39

I don't think there is any way to stop people from tracking you. Technically speaking, you can pretty much always be tracked. Even if you eliminated all third party requests you could still be tracked. Downloads, logins, queries, etc all can be tracked. Virtually all software now has the "continuously upgrade to the latest version" bullshit so you are tracked every time you open the app. Even if you turn it off, they…

It’s already a law in Europe. GDPR and ePrivacy. You have to get consent from the user. Having worked for European companies, they take it seriously.

The assumption that telemetry is not allowed by GDPR is flawed

https://gdpr-info.eu/recitals/no-26/

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Post by pseudalopex »

charcircuit wrote: post #62

This does not make sense to support. Businesses that have proper privacy controls and security do not want to be lumped together with random shady apps and want users to explicitly opt out. Another issue with this header is that users could set it and then accidentally opt out of other sharing that they don't realize since this header is being set somewhere random. Standardizing on a per app basis way to revoke conse…

Gathering information without real consent is shady.

Re: Do_not_track

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Post by pseudalopex »

varispeed wrote: post #15

Default opt-in tracking should be illegal and enforced with such fines and prison sentences, that companies wouldn't even dare to have anything remotely capable of tracking in the runtime. Unfortunately big corporations can always find away to make regulators see no problem.

> Default opt-in

This is called opt out.

Re: Do_not_track

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Post by Gigachad »

LocalH wrote: post #24
PufPufPuf wrote: post #19

This is set up for the same fate as DNT in browsers. Collecting all the "do not track" env vars into a single "do_not_track.env" file, however, may not be a bad idea...

Advertisers chose to ignore DNT because they claimed Microsoft making DNT enabled by default took agency away from the user. In reality, they probably weren't going to honor it anyway.

There's an inherent conflict. No one _wants_ to be tracked, there is no direct benefit to being tracked and only downsides. And advertisers want to track you. So there was no way to respect the flag other than making it obscure so only a few dedicated people turned it on.

Re: Do_not_track

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Post by dylan604 »

doginasuit wrote: post #69
charles_f wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Article quite literally talks about tracking of cli tools you run on your own computer, half of which are to pilot products that you pay with your own money. Get off your high horse.

I would advocate for not getting your horse high to begin with, or hide your stash better.

Wow, I guess I grew up too close to actual cowboys that this is an interpretation I just never considered. Not sure why though as it's right there for the taking.

Re: Do_not_track

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Post by dylan604 »

mmooss wrote: post #45
LocalH wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Advertisers chose to ignore DNT because they claimed Microsoft making DNT enabled by default took agency away from the user. In reality, they probably weren't going to honor it anyway.

Microsoft is too sophisticated to plead ignorance; they are responsible for that outcome and I think we can assume they knowningly chose it. (Though now Microsoft browsers are such a small portion of the market that it doesn't matter.) The biggest failure of DNT was browser makers - including Mozilla - removing it. It has zero performance impact (1 bit?) or development cost. As long as it was out there, when there wa…

Lately, I've come across websites that instead of a cookie banner display a banner that states they recognize and honor my wish to not be tracked. Whether that really do or not is something I did not spend time looking into. The first time I saw it I thought it was a fluke, and then it happened a few more times with in a short time period. Couldn't tell you what sites they were though as it was just something from search results.

Re: Do_not_track

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Post by dylan604 »

spudlyo wrote: post #6

I was surprised how hard it was to stop the Python transformers library from phoning home to Hugging Face. I set HF_HUB_DISABLE_TELEMETRY=1, and when I called Wav2Vec2CTCTokenizer.from_pretrained I explicitly passed local_files_only=True, but still I got got a warning about not having a valid HF_TOKEN. It wasn't until I stumbled upon HF_HUB_OFFLINE=1 that I'm somewhat confident that I'm not making outgoing connection…

Does something like Little Snitch catch these to help find the things doing hidden shenanigans?
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