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Ask HN: Is the Job Market Actually Bad?

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Re: Ask HN: Is the Job Market Actually Bad?

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I think geography and industry will have a large influence on the job market.

Yeah definitely this. I work in silicon verification and there's strong demand, weak supply and easy to get a job. My impression is it's very different in e.g. web frontend dev.

Re: Ask HN: Is the Job Market Actually Bad?

#22
I had a friend with plenty of experience in HR get laid off.

He looked for a job for 13 months. One of the top 3 smartest people I’ve ever known looked for seven months and had to take a big step back in his career, despite having Amazon and Home Depot on his resume.

Both of them said that even getting an interview was almost impossibly hard.

These are people in different parts of the county, and in different industries.

I think we have a serious problem on our hands with employment that’s probably not getting better any time soon.

Re: Ask HN: Is the Job Market Actually Bad?

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It isn't. As someone who has made hiring and firing decisions at the Board level, the people who are the most severely affected were either (in no order): 1. Working remotely in North America but demanding Bay Area salaries without the chops to justify it. 2. Working in Western Europe (they complain more about stuff irrelevant to the business but shy away from business critical decision making when offered the opport…

Why do you even hire in Europe when the smartest people are in the Bay Area?

Why even post such an absurd comment?

Re: Ask HN: Is the Job Market Actually Bad?

#25

It isn't. As someone who has made hiring and firing decisions at the Board level, the people who are the most severely affected were either (in no order): 1. Working remotely in North America but demanding Bay Area salaries without the chops to justify it. 2. Working in Western Europe (they complain more about stuff irrelevant to the business but shy away from business critical decision making when offered the opport…

I feel so much disdain for workers coming from your words. I hope to never work for someone like you

Re: Ask HN: Is the Job Market Actually Bad?

#26
I'm kinda looking at jobs available (Europe):

- AI (as in: stupid AI wrappers "disrupting" shit)

- FinTech

- Gambling

- AI in FinTech

That's about 99% of jobs advertised. No idea how hard it's to get hired, but even jobs on offer are shitty.

Re: Ask HN: Is the Job Market Actually Bad?

#27
My current job search has been the longest and most difficult of my career (5 months so far). Caveats:

- I’m only applying with climate tech companies

- I’m trying to transition back to engineering after a detour into product

- I’m trying to pivot into more hardware-focused roles

Most companies I apply to don’t respond at all, and I’ve had about 6 phone screens, two technical interviews, and one “we’d love to hire you once we get the funding for this position sometime in June”.

So from my perspective, the job market is awful, but YMMV.

P.S. if you’re working on any clean energy related software, I’d be a great addition to your team — https://matthewgerring.com

Re: Ask HN: Is the Job Market Actually Bad?

#28
post #16

Totally depends on where you are and your past experience. Being in the US puts you at a huge advantage compared to just about anywhere. Maybe you're just lucky.

Depends how you look at it. In tech its probably a lot easier get a job in most of e.g. Eastern Europe, of course unless you are at the top even (where the competition is higher) even adjusted by CoL salaries are much lower.

Re: Ask HN: Is the Job Market Actually Bad?

#29

It isn't. As someone who has made hiring and firing decisions at the Board level, the people who are the most severely affected were either (in no order): 1. Working remotely in North America but demanding Bay Area salaries without the chops to justify it. 2. Working in Western Europe (they complain more about stuff irrelevant to the business but shy away from business critical decision making when offered the opport…

Translation: for almost everyone not living in a major tech hub, it's not a good market.

Re: Ask HN: Is the Job Market Actually Bad?

#30

It isn't. As someone who has made hiring and firing decisions at the Board level, the people who are the most severely affected were either (in no order): 1. Working remotely in North America but demanding Bay Area salaries without the chops to justify it. 2. Working in Western Europe (they complain more about stuff irrelevant to the business but shy away from business critical decision making when offered the opport…

Why do you even hire in Europe when the smartest people are in the Bay Area?

In some subindustries within tech (eg. Cybersecurity), the best engineering talent is now in Eastern Europe, Israel, and India and not the Bay.

Additionally, diaspora engineers whose parents are growing old are starting to move back to the old country to be close with them.

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