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Spotify adds 'Verified' badges to distinguish human artists from AI

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Re: Spotify adds 'Verified' badges to distinguish human artists from AI

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Post by givemeethekeys »

andai wrote: post #59

I was at a department store recently and heard a song I hadn't heard before. There was something strange about the singer's voice, and for a moment I wondered if it was AI generated. Then I realized, I already can't tell the difference. It already might be! (Probably not, but you never know... maybe they put Spotify on autoplay ;) Strange times.

Department stores often play covers. I'm guessing it's cheaper than playing the originals. And now, with AI, they could play original AI creations for even less!

Re: Spotify adds 'Verified' badges to distinguish human artists from AI

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Post by senko »

ssgodderidge wrote: post #64

I’m be been using the publishing year on Spotify to determine whether or not a song is AI generated, or not. Anything before 2023 is most certainly from a human

Well, about that... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koan_(program)

Re: Spotify adds 'Verified' badges to distinguish human artists from AI

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Post by emkoemko »

threepts wrote: post #80

On an off note, I do not get why moral puritans disparage the general public for listening to AI songs? If they are "soulless" then they should close their ears rather than trying to maim others.

because no one wants to be forced to listen to the slop? some reason spotify is allowing them to dump a lot of ai "music" and then they get played without you knowing

Re: Spotify adds 'Verified' badges to distinguish human artists from AI

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Post by senko »

andai wrote: post #59

I was at a department store recently and heard a song I hadn't heard before. There was something strange about the singer's voice, and for a moment I wondered if it was AI generated. Then I realized, I already can't tell the difference. It already might be! (Probably not, but you never know... maybe they put Spotify on autoplay ;) Strange times.

There's a whole industry of "royalty-free music", full of songs you hadn't heard before (or if you had, you'd forget about it anyways), which you can license for a fixed fee that's much lower than either mandatory royalties or negotiating with labels for "branded" (for lack of better term).

Existed for years, nothing to do with AI (though, with AI, you don't even need those).

Google "royalty-free music providers".

Re: Spotify adds 'Verified' badges to distinguish human artists from AI

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Post by input_sh »

reconnecting wrote: post #31
mjr00 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Lie. You will not. You need to go through the distributor (1), and it has always been this way. Er yes, which is why I mentioned LANDR and Amuse, both of which are on the page you linked. I mentioned those two specifically because I know they don't charge up-front and instead take a % of royalties, so they're ideal for flooding Spotify with AI slop. I'm not sure which part you think is a lie. > You need to go throu…

Apologies, I had correct my comment prior to your reply. > Because they allow anyone to upload to Spotify. No one is allowed to upload directly to Spotify. However, I wasn't aware that distributors might not vet content prior to publishing.

> However, I wasn't aware that distributors might not vet content prior to publishing.

Oh it's far worse than that. Some of them like the abovementioned LANDR also offer "AI-assisted music production", so there's that!

Very few do proper vetting. They'll remove your music in a heartbeat if someone reports you to them (even in cases where such a report is completely bogus), but they won't do much to vet you beforehand. If they did that, they'd be labels, not distributors. Their only job is to be the hoop you have to get through that you don't have on say SoundCloud or YouTube.

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Post by bjt »

threepts wrote: post #80

On an off note, I do not get why moral puritans disparage the general public for listening to AI songs? If they are "soulless" then they should close their ears rather than trying to maim others.

The models that make AI songs were trained on real musicians' copyrighted works, without permission.

It's kinda shitty to steal someone's works, then use them to build a machine to also steal their jobs.

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Post by emkoemko »

threepts wrote: post #66
reconnecting wrote: post #12

The more appropriate question is why they published a AI artist at all. I think Spotify (or its owners/investors) might actually benefit from recommending AI-generated music by not having to pay real artists. Like Spotify owns distribution, their largest investor Tencent Music Entertainment Group publishes AI-generated music = almost infinite profit. From news: Tencent Music demonstrated strong revenue (1) growth in…

I would argue AI artists are antithetical to their business model, when people can generate their own versions of popular IP, they'll just use that.

i agree they want to make more money but come on calling them "AI artist" ?

Re: Spotify adds 'Verified' badges to distinguish human artists from AI

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Post by threepts »

emkoemko wrote: post #83
threepts wrote: post #80

On an off note, I do not get why moral puritans disparage the general public for listening to AI songs? If they are "soulless" then they should close their ears rather than trying to maim others.

because no one wants to be forced to listen to the slop? some reason spotify is allowing them to dump a lot of ai "music" and then they get played without you knowing

No one is forcing you to listen to Spotify. You are free to buy a turntable and play all the non-sloppy music.

Seeing the popularity of some AI songs, people DO want to hear to this sort of music.

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Post by bilsbie »

sigmonsays wrote: post #22
bilsbie wrote: post #15

Someone should make a free streaming service that’s only AI music. I’m not that picky.

That actually hurts a little. I hope you reconsider, music is an art, and allowing a computer to regurgitate previous works over and over and be ok with it is awful. Art is to be experienced and enjoyed, not just take whatever trash is thrown at you and be ok with it.

I actually agree with you but I consider most modern music to already be artificially created. It’s not a computer but rather coming from industry chosen artists, corporate publishing, corporate marketing, and so on. Each step removing any beauty or controversy.
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