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Spotify adds 'Verified' badges to distinguish human artists from AI

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Re: Spotify adds 'Verified' badges to distinguish human artists from AI

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Post by NitpickLawyer »

sigmonsays wrote: post #22
bilsbie wrote: post #15

Someone should make a free streaming service that’s only AI music. I’m not that picky.

That actually hurts a little. I hope you reconsider, music is an art, and allowing a computer to regurgitate previous works over and over and be ok with it is awful. Art is to be experienced and enjoyed, not just take whatever trash is thrown at you and be ok with it.

That's a bit gatekeepy IMO. Some music is art. Most music isn't. It also depends what you want from music. There's a difference between relaxing while listening to great songs and "background" music for work. I can't listen to lyrics while writing / coding / working in general, so I prefer simple repetitive or predictable genres. EDM / trance / techno / lofi depending on what I'm working on. We can agree that doesn't have to be art to be useful.

> allowing a computer to regurgitate previous works

That's not what "AI" music is, and you really should read into how it works before regurgitating (heh) miss-conceptions.

Re: Spotify adds 'Verified' badges to distinguish human artists from AI

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Post by Semaphor »

jrumbut wrote: post #35
Semaphor wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Big Bandcamp fan, I get almost all my music from there. But their AI removal (well, or piracy removal for that matter) is rather lacking. Any action takes over a week, sometimes more. Just like with clear piracy (pre release leaks have been up for months), and when they do, they just remove it, whoever bought it is out of luck. I love the site, but they have a long way to go.

They have been great for what I use them for, occasion niche discoveries, but I'm not sure they replace Spotify for the "hop in my car and my favorite mainstream hits begin playing without having to think too hard about it" use case.

Oh yeah, it's not for that at all. I only listen to albums, so I don't need that. Heard people using listenbrainz recs for similar things

Re: Spotify adds 'Verified' badges to distinguish human artists from AI

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Post by Sharlin »

gynecologist wrote: post #40
post-it wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Plenty of people use music as a fidget toy while working or studying. Not everything has to be a masterpiece.

There's more quality ambient music out there recorded by actual humans than you can listen to in a lifetime already.

Yeah. It’s not like there’s a dearth of human-created music.

Re: Spotify adds 'Verified' badges to distinguish human artists from AI

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Post by Lammy »

uncircle wrote: post #34
mjr00 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The more appropriate question is why they published a AI artist at all. Because they allow anyone to upload to Spotify. There's nothing stopping me, you, or anyone from generating AI tracks with Suno & friends, downloading them, and using a service like LANDR or Amuse to distribute them to Spotify, all for free. > Like Spotify owns distribution, their largest investor Tencent Music Entertainment Group publishes AI-…

> Consumers are by and large not listening to AI generated music Consumers are sadly too ignorant to tell. YouTube is brimming with AI music slop and people praising it in the comments because they are unable to tell the difference (and it is actually pretty easy once you know what to look out for)

How can you trust that the commenters aren't AI too?

Re: Spotify adds 'Verified' badges to distinguish human artists from AI

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Post by agmater »

uncircle wrote: post #34
mjr00 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The more appropriate question is why they published a AI artist at all. Because they allow anyone to upload to Spotify. There's nothing stopping me, you, or anyone from generating AI tracks with Suno & friends, downloading them, and using a service like LANDR or Amuse to distribute them to Spotify, all for free. > Like Spotify owns distribution, their largest investor Tencent Music Entertainment Group publishes AI-…

> Consumers are by and large not listening to AI generated music Consumers are sadly too ignorant to tell. YouTube is brimming with AI music slop and people praising it in the comments because they are unable to tell the difference (and it is actually pretty easy once you know what to look out for)

Could you elaborate? I can't tell with music and voice

Re: Spotify adds 'Verified' badges to distinguish human artists from AI

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Post by [deleted] »

reconnecting wrote: post #23
mjr00 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The more appropriate question is why they published a AI artist at all. Because they allow anyone to upload to Spotify. There's nothing stopping me, you, or anyone from generating AI tracks with Suno & friends, downloading them, and using a service like LANDR or Amuse to distribute them to Spotify, all for free. > Like Spotify owns distribution, their largest investor Tencent Music Entertainment Group publishes AI-…

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Re: Spotify adds 'Verified' badges to distinguish human artists from AI

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Post by mh2266 »

chromacity wrote: post #28
mh2266 wrote: post #21

how are people getting this AI music on Spotify? where are you finding it? for example the home recommendations for me today are The Beths, Big Thief, Geese, and Sleater-Kinney. and it is all albums I have already have listened to, but fine, whatever, that's just bad recommendations, not AI. generally I use either the search box, which is always going to return the Geese album and not AI slop if I type "Getting Kille…

For me, before I canceled, about 20% of the weekly "Release radar" list was obvious AI slop, with zero indication that it was happening and no way to opt out. It probably depends on which discovery channel you're using and whether the recommendation algorithm has you pegged as someone willing to try new / less popular bands. But it's definitely an issue on the platform. I never sought AI content and always diligently…

yeah I never use their recommendation playlists, other than the automatic ongoing playlist once an album ends. that generally plays one song by the same artist and then some similar artists which are all real people (annoyingly it tends to choose the same most popular songs for an artist it chooses every single time)

I just find music on sites like p4k, opening bands at shows, or the "similar artists" feature on Spotify which always suggests real people for me, they have convincing photos and often upcoming shows listed so probably not an AI bot

Re: Spotify adds 'Verified' badges to distinguish human artists from AI

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Post by hbn »

post-it wrote: post #32
sigmonsays wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That actually hurts a little. I hope you reconsider, music is an art, and allowing a computer to regurgitate previous works over and over and be ok with it is awful. Art is to be experienced and enjoyed, not just take whatever trash is thrown at you and be ok with it.

Plenty of people use music as a fidget toy while working or studying. Not everything has to be a masterpiece.

I think that attitude has downstream effects that are spiritually unhealthy. You should feel off-put by the idea of mentally sating your human brain with a soulless, algorithmically optimized imitation of art. We evolved with art as a species. I don't think anyone should be trying to "logic" their way into thinking humans are optional in art, even if it's something you're passively consuming.

Re: Spotify adds 'Verified' badges to distinguish human artists from AI

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Post by neonstatic »

uncircle wrote: post #34
mjr00 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The more appropriate question is why they published a AI artist at all. Because they allow anyone to upload to Spotify. There's nothing stopping me, you, or anyone from generating AI tracks with Suno & friends, downloading them, and using a service like LANDR or Amuse to distribute them to Spotify, all for free. > Like Spotify owns distribution, their largest investor Tencent Music Entertainment Group publishes AI-…

> Consumers are by and large not listening to AI generated music Consumers are sadly too ignorant to tell. YouTube is brimming with AI music slop and people praising it in the comments because they are unable to tell the difference (and it is actually pretty easy once you know what to look out for)

Realistically speaking, why is that a problem? What is the point of music if not enjoyment? If these people enjoy it, what's wrong with it?
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