Flock cameras keep telling police a man who doesn't have a warrant has a warrant
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Re: Flock cameras keep telling police a man who doesn't have a warrant has a warrant
#2Is there some argument to aid here that this constitutes or facilitates systemic harassment?
Or is that just going to be nigh on impossible to use as grounds for a lawsuit?
Re: Flock cameras keep telling police a man who doesn't have a warrant has a warrant
#3Flock should be shut down and their entire c-suite should be sent to prison for human rights violations
Also, not just an isolated incident: https://youtu.be/8BImTddknfk
We need strong laws preventing any AI process from being used for law enforcement at all. The mere presence of AI at any step in the process should result in complete exoneration.
Re: Flock cameras keep telling police a man who doesn't have a warrant has a warrant
#4In the video he said that the courts ask "who is the warrant for" and he replied "no one", but surely one could also look up the number plate and find it that way?
Re: Flock cameras keep telling police a man who doesn't have a warrant has a warrant
#5Since I got downvoted, this isn't just this guy.
Turns out police are putting ambiguous plates in the system under all variants, and Flock is lapping it up. The cops who do so should also go to prison.
Re: Flock cameras keep telling police a man who doesn't have a warrant has a warrant
#6Paraphrasing the crux of the issue: "It's regular practice in Colorado to list license plates with both versions, the one with 'O's and the other with Zeros in the warrant list."
Insane. Practice.
As always, this story has have nothing to do with the cameras or AI, but "law enforcement has an insane lazy practice" doesn't make for a very good headline anymore.
Re: Flock cameras keep telling police a man who doesn't have a warrant has a warrant
#7Is there some argument to aid here that this constitutes or facilitates systemic harassment? Or is that just going to be nigh on impossible to use as grounds for a lawsuit?
Even if there are grounds for a lawsuit, chances are "qualified immunity" will mean the wronged parties get zero recompense
Re: Flock cameras keep telling police a man who doesn't have a warrant has a warrant
#8Paraphrasing the crux of the issue: "It's regular practice in Colorado to list license plates with both versions, the one with 'O's and the other with Zeros in the warrant list." Insane. Practice. As always, this story has have nothing to do with the cameras or AI, but "law enforcement has an insane lazy practice" doesn't make for a very good headline anymore.
The AI is making it way worse because they're continually flagging these individuals even after the police make contact.
Police are starting to use AI as a shortcut to avoid doing actual policing, and that's the real problem.
AI has no place in law enforcement. Its use should result in complete spoilage of the case, and complete exoneration of the accused, with prejudice.
Re: Flock cameras keep telling police a man who doesn't have a warrant has a warrant
#9Flock should be shut down and their entire c-suite should be sent to prison for human rights violations Also, not just an isolated incident: https://youtu.be/8BImTddknfk We need strong laws preventing any AI process from being used for law enforcement at all . The mere presence of AI at any step in the process should result in complete exoneration.
Why punish the employees of a business when the root cause is corrupt government employees abusing their power?
Edit to respond to smt88:
IBM knowingly selling services to the Nazis specifically to violate human rights is not the same as Flock selling services to cops to aid in identification. In addition, going after 1 business is simply an inefficient use of resources, when the government employees can simply use a different business to abuse their power.
Re: Flock cameras keep telling police a man who doesn't have a warrant has a warrant
#10Is there some argument to aid here that this constitutes or facilitates systemic harassment? Or is that just going to be nigh on impossible to use as grounds for a lawsuit?
Even if there are grounds for a lawsuit, chances are "qualified immunity" will mean the wronged parties get zero recompense
Go after Flock; they are not protected by extension as they are the ones who are alerting the police and have no system-wide removal option according to the Chief interviewed.