So, we have: - claude for corps and gov - codex for devs - grok for what, roleplay, racism? Those are the two things I've ever heard grok associated with around me.
So you are repeating narratives without checking them?
Grok 4.3
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Re: Grok 4.3
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So interestingly, I know of at least one application in a charity that deals with trafficking where grok was happy to do one-shot classification tasks where all other models refused to cooperate. I think there's a surprising number of actually useful applications in this sort of grey area for a slightly-less guardrailed, near-frontier model (also the grok-fast models are cheap!).
There are lots of uncensored models out there. I don't think grok is leading in that front. They kind of pick and choose which things they want to support based on elons world views. Elon used to hang out with sex traffickers so of course grok is fine talking about it. Probably even offers strategies for them does free accounting has money laundering strategies etc...
>There are lots of uncensored models out there.
Like what?
Something as easy where normal people can login to a website and app and just use?
Re: Grok 4.3
#303Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are lots of uncensored models out there. I don't think grok is leading in that front. They kind of pick and choose which things they want to support based on elons world views. Elon used to hang out with sex traffickers so of course grok is fine talking about it. Probably even offers strategies for them does free accounting has money laundering strategies etc...
>There are lots of uncensored models out there. Like what? Something as easy where normal people can login to a website and app and just use?
I don't think companies are hosting them because imagine the liability. Could be wrong though. Again I don't know much about these things I just know they exist.
Re: Grok 4.3
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I know it's just an evaluation, but seeing an informal message and a prompt to ask to rewrite this informal message to the tone of an "informal message" when the original one sounds just fine, just makes me sad... Not because of this evaluation, but because it reminds me that this is how some people use LLMs, basically asking it to remove your own voice from texts that are generally fine already.
My sister in law is a pharmacist and the heaviest non-dev ChatGPT user I know and her main use case is writing professionally polite messages to doctors on how the drugs they prescribed to a patient would have killed them had she not caught a particular interaction or common side effect. There's a lot of "tone" in it as she's not trying to anger these folks, but also it's quite serious, but also there's just everythi…
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Re: Grok 4.3
#305As an English-as-second-language speaker and writer, one thing Grok really shines at is capturing the tone and level of "formality" of a piece of text and the replicating it correctly. It seems to understand the little human subtleties of language in a way the other major providers don't. Chatgpt goes overly stiff and formal sounding, or ends up in a weird "aye guvnor" type informal language (Claude is sometimes bett…
I did a quick eval comparing Grok 4.3, Opus 4.7 and GPT 4.1 and they actually seem pretty similar: https://ofw640g9re.evvl.io/ They all did pretty well at a more "formal" tone, but GPT4.1 was the only one that didn't make me cringe with a "casual" tone. [edit] fwiw, grok was also the fastest+cheapest model, claude was slowest and priciest.
All of these were frankly terrible. I guess Grok’s “informal” version sounded the most like a real human, but only because it reads exactly like an Elon tweet (including his favorite emoji!). It’s obvious what they’ve been training on.
Re: Grok 4.3
#306Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've also noticed that when I communicate with Grok in my native language, its tone is more natural than other models. I think this is due to the advantage of being trained on a large amount of Twitter data. However, as Twitter contains more and more AI-generated content now, I'm afraid continued training will make it less natural.
Sadly, it's more likely that people will just start talking like bots
I've seen this expressed as a concern even from one of my colleagues. My retort was:
"English is not my native language and LLMs taught me quite a few very useful formalisms that do land well for people and they change their attitude towards you to be more respectful afterwards. It also showed me how to frame and reframe certain arguments. I agree sounding like an LLM is kind of sad but I am getting a lot of educational value -- and with time I'll sneak my own voice back in these newly learned idioms and ways to talk."
Re: Grok 4.3
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My searches have not turned up a result showing that Musk "claimed he had never corresponded with Epstein". Can you source this? If not, can you explain why you did not check it before you posted the inaccurate claim?
At minimum Musk repeatedly claimed that Epstein was the one reaching out trying to get Musk to visit his island, when in reality Musk was the one initiating and asking which nights would be the wildest parties. And after making plans to visit with his then-wife, when Epstein warned him that the ratio of women-to-men might upset Musk’s wife, Musk told Epstein it wouldn’t be a problem. https://www.theguardian.com/techn…
I never heard about the horse related thing, that’s interesting, thanks.
A long history? Another search tells me that apart from the mentioned accusation, there is only one WSJ article alleging sexual conduct with SpaceX employees.
You asked why I take Musk‘s side in these discussions; it’s because I don’t think he’s a pedophile.
Nothing I‘ve seen seemed convincing to me, and the arguments made online often were so laughably inaccurate and exaggerated as to border on blatant slander.
Re: Grok 4.3
#308Grok is my favorite model for chatting, and my favorite voice mode. It seems to be the only voice mode that isn't routing to a extremely cheap model (like Haiku), and has been the highest quality out of all the frontier ones. When you subscribe to SuperGrok you can also create a "council" of agents, each with their own system prompt and when you ask something, they will all get asked in parallel to come to a conclusi…
Starting to like the lack of memory. Claude remembers I have a grill and will interject in conversations about how maybe this thing would go well with BBQ when it's unrelated or just also about food.
Re: Grok 4.3
#309Re: Grok 4.3
#310Earlier quoted context omitted.
>There are lots of uncensored models out there. Like what? Something as easy where normal people can login to a website and app and just use?
I don't think companies are hosting them because imagine the liability. Could be wrong though. Again I don't know much about these things I just know they exist.
Yes that is my point.
It is the dropbox comment all over again.
"Well you can just self-host to get uncencored same as Grok without NAZI!! Elon Musk!!"
Just like you can spin up an FTP to get your own Dropbox.
Well... very few people are going to actually do that.