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Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by darkerside »

djyde wrote: post #38
sundarurfriend wrote: post #27

As an English-as-second-language speaker and writer, one thing Grok really shines at is capturing the tone and level of "formality" of a piece of text and the replicating it correctly. It seems to understand the little human subtleties of language in a way the other major providers don't. Chatgpt goes overly stiff and formal sounding, or ends up in a weird "aye guvnor" type informal language (Claude is sometimes bett…

I've also noticed that when I communicate with Grok in my native language, its tone is more natural than other models. I think this is due to the advantage of being trained on a large amount of Twitter data. However, as Twitter contains more and more AI-generated content now, I'm afraid continued training will make it less natural.

Sadly, it's more likely that people will just start talking like bots

Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by cyanydeez »

agrounds wrote: post #147
aembleton wrote: post #135

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I've tried Grok, Gemini and ChatGPT. There have been 2 times now where Gemini and ChatGPT confidently gave me an incorrect answer whereas Grok was correct. I'm now paying for Grok Lite or whatever it is $10 plan. The first question was around setting up timers for a Fox ESS battery in Home Assistant and disconnecting Fox ESS from the cloud. The second was around cornering speed in Sunnypilot and Frogpilot. Somewhat n…

>if an AI is confidently telling you something wrong it's hard to work with. But they all do that. It just comes with the territory. Grok will absolutely do the same thing another time you try it.

humans make poor scientists. most people have already made a decision before they run any tests.

the smartest among them just make the tests complicated and biased; the less intelligent just cherry pick.

of course, would you really expect anyone to do real rsearch in this economy?

Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by greenavocado »

loneboat wrote: post #180
AntiUSAbah wrote: post #164

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The hitler Grok? What? I genuinely don't understand what you're trying to say in this comment.

He's equating Grok to Hitler which is absurd. If you want to speak with the führer you need to visit https://hitler.ai

Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by Der_Einzige »

gadders wrote: post #157
2ndorderthought wrote: post #117

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So did Bill Gates and Reid Hoffman.

Elon, bill, Reid and Trump should share a prison cell.

Democrats have no loyalty to their own sex offenders. Look how we treated the California governed candidate, or Anthony weiner, or literally every other sex pest found in our party. Some of them who didn’t even deserve it get canceled like Al Franklin.

Diddling and then defending it and doubling down is literally a maga problem.

Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by cyanydeez »

Hfuffzehn wrote: post #181
vel0city wrote: post #171

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It ships with a roleplay feature. https://grok.com/ani

Sure, but the best statistics about what models people are actually using when they can choose is probably from openrouter: https://openrouter.ai/apps/category/entertainment/roleplay

doesnt knowing about openrouter skew by self selection.

Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by xiphias2 »

AntiUSAbah wrote: post #145
xiphias2 wrote: post #130

It's just at the Chinese levels for coding, so right now it's just a money earing thing for investors. I hope the Cursor guys help them catch up to be closer to frontier models because they badly need help in it.

I hope not. Musk can directly go to hell with his shit. Nonetheless, the 10 Billion and 60 Billion deal with Cursor is weird as hell. I can only imagine that he wants to throw as much money at all of his shit before the IPO. He probably wants the training data

Sure, then good like paying twice as much for the next Opus / Codex models.

Margins are going up for the 2 frontier model providers like crazy, and I don't expect it to go down more, I think we have seen the cheapest token prices already.

Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by mapontosevenths »

2ndorderthought wrote: post #146
user34283 wrote: post #127

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On Artifical Analysis it shows only Kimi K2.6 and Mimo V2.5 Pro as better. Those models are 1T parameters total and 30B or 40B active, this might make abliteration impractical. About Musk, yes, there is correspondence. The only confirmed meeting appears to be a 30 minute visit at Epstein's house together with Musk's wife at the time. As for photos you mention, a quick search tells me there is one photo of Musk and Ma…

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Elon publicaly claimed he had never corresponded with Epstein. that was a lie.

When the documents were released they found several like thie one below. Saying things like "What day/night will be the wildest party on =our island?" [0]

The "our" part is especially interesting as it implies he didnt just visit, but had an ownership stake.

Other emails were found with Epstein making excuses to avoid having Musk visit, and Musks own child publically stated that the emails were authentic and aligned with her memory of the events. [1]

[0] https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2010/EFTA01762...

[1] https://www.threads.com/@vivllainous/post/DUMBh2Vkk8D?xmt=AQ...

Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by 2ndorderthought »

vel0city wrote: post #171
Hfuffzehn wrote: post #133

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From what I can gather Grok is not used for roleplay much. It is considered to inconsistant and crazy. People are mostly using GLM and Deepseek via API and Gemma4 and Mistral finetunes locally. It seems to me like the roleplay market is comparatively old and mature and users have developed cost consciousness and like models to follow their workflow/preferences. So something like Opus is liked for its smartness but co…

It ships with a roleplay feature. https://grok.com/ani

That doesn't mean it's good at it

Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by Der_Einzige »

nsowz wrote: post #35
tornikeo wrote: post #30

So, we have: - claude for corps and gov - codex for devs - grok for what, roleplay, racism? Those are the two things I've ever heard grok associated with around me.

Grok is as progressive as any of the other models. Despite some of the highly-publicised fuck-ups, try asking Grok anything racist and see how it replies. Yes, I know you didn't try this and you won’t.

Grok absolutely is fine with being very racist. Stop spreading lies on the internet.
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