https://artificialanalysis.ai/models/grok-4-3
What's with the charts and numbers?
It says #1 for speed but then in the chart it's #2. Also says #10 for intelligence but then it's #7 in the chart.
Grok 4.3
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#12Despite their attrition, this combined with their cursor partnership is likely going to make them competitive in coding agents soon.
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#13Ok speed (202.7 tok/s) and value (1.25 -> 2.50) look great, with pretty decent intelligence.
The problem with speed is that they usually are very fast for first few weeks and then suddenly much slower. They did such trick when they advertised Grok 4 fast ( dropped from 200 tps to 60tps)
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#14Pelican riding a bike here: https://gist.github.com/SerJaimeLannister/f6de26bd0d0817e056... (ran this on arena.ai direct chat and also tried to write this gist inspired by how simon writes his gists about pelicans) Edit: just realized that I made pelican riding a bike instead of bicycle, which now makes sense as to why it hardened the bicycle to look tankier, going to compare this with pelican riding a bicycle if any…
https://simonwillison.net/2025/Nov/13/training-for-pelicans-...
You should probably come up with variations, like a beaver riding a scooter or something, just to see what's what :)
Re: Grok 4.3
#15In court vs openai, Musk said Grok is partly trained on openai models, so it should be somehow similar to Chinese models in terms of performance and cost!
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#16The tok/s stat is interesting. Since the dominant constraint on inference speed is hardware, it suggests X purchased far more compute than was really needed to serve the demand for their models.
Expensive miscalculation.
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#17Grok is my favorite model for chatting, and my favorite voice mode. It seems to be the only voice mode that isn't routing to a extremely cheap model (like Haiku), and has been the highest quality out of all the frontier ones. When you subscribe to SuperGrok you can also create a "council" of agents, each with their own system prompt and when you ask something, they will all get asked in parallel to come to a conclusion. Good stuff!
Just wish they would finally put some work into their apps, it's the only thing keeping me from actually subscribing to SuperGrok:
- No MCP / connected apps support. It's been teased but here we are, still not available. I can't connect Grok to anything, so I can't use it for serious work
- Projects are still not available in the app so as soon as you move something into a project, it's gone from all the native apps
- No way to add artifacts (like generated markdown docs) directly to a project, we have to export to PDF/markdown and re-import. And there isn't even a way to export artifacts. This makes serious project work hard because we can't dynamically evolve projects with new information
- No memory, no ability to look up other chats, each chat is completely new
- No voice mode in projects at all
If someone from xAI is reading this, please consider adding some of these.
Re: Grok 4.3
#18If there was any model I wouldn’t trust, it wouldn’t be the ones from China, it would be the one from Elon Musk
Re: Grok 4.3
#19Ok speed (202.7 tok/s) and value (1.25 -> 2.50) look great, with pretty decent intelligence.
The problem with speed is that they usually are very fast for first few weeks and then suddenly much slower. They did such trick when they advertised Grok 4 fast ( dropped from 200 tps to 60tps)
Wow. That is a big drop.
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#20When looking at the benchmarks, this model seems to be really close to Kimi K2.6 in terms of intelligence and pricing, hitting that sweet spot. It does also have a higher AA-Omniscience index, which is something kimi and other open models lack in. Curious to see how pleasant it is to use.
I’ll eat my hat if it even comes close to Kimi