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Apple Says Mac Studio and Mac Mini Will Be in Short Supply for Months

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Re: Apple Says Mac Studio and Mac Mini Will Be in Short Supply for Months

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The Neo as well, I just need a Mac to test with and finding one is ridiculous. Hackintoshes are hell to setup and run like crap. I tried https://www.macincloud.com/ and that was a waste of time. Someone take my money.

If you send me an email I might have a machine or MacOS VM on that machine you can use.

Thanks for the offer, think I'm gonna go the eBay route.

Re: Apple Says Mac Studio and Mac Mini Will Be in Short Supply for Months

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An M4 mini is overkill just to run OpenClaw. I'm running it on a Pentium J5005 and it's running 20 other services in Docker. I think the main thing was many wanted it to be able to access iMessage. I think people dream of also using the mac to run the LLM but the 16gb ones don't have enough ram.

The shortage is for the 512, 256, and 128 models.

Those are the ones that can run the LLMs. Not a coincidence.

Re: Apple Says Mac Studio and Mac Mini Will Be in Short Supply for Months

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I guess the sudden demand is due to OpenClaw? But most people will still use cloud LLMs, right? Anything particular with the Mac Mini that non-Mac lack?

An M4 mini is overkill just to run OpenClaw. I'm running it on a Pentium J5005 and it's running 20 other services in Docker. I think the main thing was many wanted it to be able to access iMessage. I think people dream of also using the mac to run the LLM but the 16gb ones don't have enough ram.

People are running openclown on microcontrollers.

Re: Apple Says Mac Studio and Mac Mini Will Be in Short Supply for Months

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Not sure what happened to you with macincloud, but I used scaleway hosted Mac mini M1 a couple years ago for a self hosted CI server, and it was working very nicely.

They don't really advertise that you can install nothing on the machine. It's super restricted.

I think you can at $50/month

Re: Apple Says Mac Studio and Mac Mini Will Be in Short Supply for Months

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I guess the sudden demand is due to OpenClaw? But most people will still use cloud LLMs, right? Anything particular with the Mac Mini that non-Mac lack?

Mac mini has first-class access to iCloud, photos, iMessage etc. So if you are deep in the Apple ecosystem you might prefer it for that reason. I have a windows gaming desktop that I could use as a server for openclaw/cowork but I realized I simply don’t trust that system enough to give it access to all the personal stuff I’m giving to the AI. I trust Anthropic and Apple. I don’t trust whatever junk is running on my gaming desktop.

If you want to run local models, another advantage is Apple’s unified memory architecture. The biggest Mac mini has 64gb ram and Mac Studio has up to 512gb. Compare this little box to what monster Nvidia gpu system you would have to buy to get the same memory there. And how much your PG&E bill would go up. That doesn’t account for the shortage of basic $600 Mac minis though.

Re: Apple Says Mac Studio and Mac Mini Will Be in Short Supply for Months

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Indeed, ton's of refurbished for $250-$300

Yea it does look like 5 year old M1's are going for $300 on eBay, but man that's painful a 5 year old machine for that much when you could get a new Neo or Mini for $600, if only you could buy them. I probably should just get the M1, test and sell it back on eBay. Thanks.

Neo isn't much better than M1.

Re: Apple Says Mac Studio and Mac Mini Will Be in Short Supply for Months

#29
post #12

Apple got so bad with its products, so bad indeed that they took a bet on the low price sector with the Neo and abandoned the powerhouses. It is so funny, because due to the high profit margin as a relative share of the price Apple earns more by selling a few top models than with dozens of Neos. Tim Cook, the supply chain master leaves house the moment the very reason why he got hired in the first place is in dire st…

The Neo won't sell dozens of models they will take the low end laptop market by storm. I think your comment will age very poorly

The Neo is already considered a huge success and is the reason for the scarcity.

Re: Apple Says Mac Studio and Mac Mini Will Be in Short Supply for Months

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It is the SoC, not the memory as reported in the earning call. And lead time for SOC is 3-4 months. i.e even if they decided to increase order in March, if would be at least until July those volumes reaches warehouse ready to be shipped. And that is assuming there are spare capacity from TSMC for Apple to order, right now there is very little to none. What annoys me most isn't the Mac Studio and Mini. It is the Neo.…

Rightly deserved
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