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Re: OpenWarp

#61

Post by SwellJoe »

Hasnep wrote: post #21
SwellJoe wrote: post #4

"OpenWarp is a community fork of Warp's open-source code. It is not affiliated with Warp Inc. and follows the upstream AGPL / MIT dual license." It is rude, and possibly a trademark violation, to fork a project and use the same name. And, how can there be a "community fork" when there is no community? It's just been Open Sourced 24 hours ago.

I agree on the name, but to me the word community here is used to mean it's not run by a company.

Historically, it means a community of developers have decided to break with the old project for some reason. Jenkins is a community fork. Mariadb is a community fork. Joomla is a community fork. Illumos was a community fork. Rocky Linux is a community fork. Valkey is a community fork.

This is a personal project by someone with no connection to the project or its code. It is misleading to claim to represent the Warp "community". Maybe there will be a community around Warp someday, and maybe there will be a reason for community members to fork it, but for now, it is a newly open sourced project, and this is a person trying to build their own reputation on someone else's work.

Forks are a good and natural part of the Open Source and Free Software world. But, a good fork doesn't look anything like this. It involves stakeholders, it respects the work others have put into the project in the past, and it doesn't confuse users with a misleadingly similar name.

At the very least, you change the name when you fork something, if you have any decency or respect for Open Source and its historical mores. I wouldn't have said a word about it, if they'd changed the name, I would have ignored it (as I assume most people would have, if it didn't share a name with something people are already talking about). But, since they're coming out of the gate being an entitled jerk about software that folks have chosen to Open Source, I'm inclined to point out that they're not behaving ethically on multiple fronts.

Re: OpenWarp

#62

Post by InsideOutSanta »

artyom wrote: post #31
avaer wrote: post #28

I don't use Warp, but it seems to me they did something cool (terminal app), pivoted that attention into a profitable AI play, but a lot of people just wanted the terminal app. Now nobody knows what Warp is anymore, because they want to be an Agentic IDE and that's not what the users want. Do I have that right? I don't see what the point of this OpenWarp fork is though, other than adding more provider support. Couldn…

Yeah, pretty much. I used it, but one day I opened Warp and it looked like a half-baked Cursor. I liked it for the ability to type "git one-liner logs with date and author, no messages" and get the output without having to remember or look for actual formatting parameters. I also get that's too niche of an use case, and not sustainable as a business. But still.

FWIW, an open-source clone of that earlier version of Warp called Wave is out there. It seems to be actively maintained and works quite well, in my experience.

Re: OpenWarp

#63

Post by taosx »

I feel this is the wrong way to go about things and I agree that it rude. Why not start by engaging with the warp project and see if some of this work could be upstreamed and if you like warp, target longevity?

Re: OpenWarp

#64

Post by wahnfrieden »

BeetleB wrote: post #35
Hasnep wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You probably can't name a project OpenWarp for the same reason you can't name a search engine OpenGoogle, even though it's a different name to the original. In this case, it's particularly confusing because the original warp project _is_ now open source.

You can't name something OpenGoogle, because the Google name is trademarked. Is Warp trademarked?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unregistered_trademark

Even if it is not a registered trademark, it can be enforceable as a trademark due to common law

Re: OpenWarp

#65

Post by dh1011 »

taosx wrote: post #63

I feel this is the wrong way to go about things and I agree that it rude. Why not start by engaging with the warp project and see if some of this work could be upstreamed and if you like warp, target longevity?

My problem with Warp is that I have to create an account to use my local llm

Re: OpenWarp

#66

Post by jauntywundrkind »

SwellJoe wrote: post #61
Hasnep wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree on the name, but to me the word community here is used to mean it's not run by a company.

Historically, it means a community of developers have decided to break with the old project for some reason. Jenkins is a community fork. Mariadb is a community fork. Joomla is a community fork. Illumos was a community fork. Rocky Linux is a community fork. Valkey is a community fork. This is a personal project by someone with no connection to the project or its code. It is misleading to claim to represent the Warp "…

It's ok to start new things with aspirations. Spare us such melodrama, such pedantry.

Re: OpenWarp

#67

Post by SwellJoe »

jauntywundrkind wrote: post #66
SwellJoe wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Historically, it means a community of developers have decided to break with the old project for some reason. Jenkins is a community fork. Mariadb is a community fork. Joomla is a community fork. Illumos was a community fork. Rocky Linux is a community fork. Valkey is a community fork. This is a personal project by someone with no connection to the project or its code. It is misleading to claim to represent the Warp "…

It's ok to start new things with aspirations. Spare us such melodrama, such pedantry.

Yep, start a new thing with a new name. Go for it.

Re: OpenWarp

#69

Post by skrtskrt »

SwellJoe wrote: post #61
Hasnep wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree on the name, but to me the word community here is used to mean it's not run by a company.

Historically, it means a community of developers have decided to break with the old project for some reason. Jenkins is a community fork. Mariadb is a community fork. Joomla is a community fork. Illumos was a community fork. Rocky Linux is a community fork. Valkey is a community fork. This is a personal project by someone with no connection to the project or its code. It is misleading to claim to represent the Warp "…

Rocky Linux was a corporate fork with numerous dubious ethical decisions early on

Re: OpenWarp

#70

Post by touristtam »

zachlloyd wrote: post #49

Warp founder here. It's cool to see the community excitement here. Note that we are going to add bring-your-own-model directly into Warp. Would love interested folks to weigh in on the discussion here: https://github.com/warpdotdev/warp/discussions/9619

Long overdue - I was all in a few years ago with Warp, but after the last couple of years of not addressing this need, I have moved on from Warp. I now DO NOT see the need to embed AI into the terminal when you can have all sorts of TUI doing the same job.
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