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Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by gnulinux »

jamwil wrote: post #517
Yajirobe wrote: post #503

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Why do they treat is as a trojan horse? More OpenClaw usage means more Claude usage. Isn't more Claude usage what Anthropic wants?

Not when their customers are paying a flat rate subscription.

Calling current AI subscription services (especially Claude) "flat rate" (implying infinite access for a flat fee) is misleading. There are pretty strict hourly, daily, weekly, and monthly limits. So there is a pretty easy-to-reach limit for all these subscriptions. They're hardly unlimited, and given how easy it is to run into limits, it's likely not super complicated/low-stddev for an accounting department to figure out avg cost per customer.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by dgb23 »

pegasus wrote: post #481
tedivm wrote: post #266

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When it comes to understanding large organizations I think a simple principle should apply: The Purpose of a System is What it Does[1]. Whether malicious or not, the system does what it does. If people wanted it to do something else they would change the system. The reality is that when corporations make mistakes that benefit them those mistakes rarely get fixed without some sort of public outcry, turning the "mistak…

Intriguing concept, but I feel it needlessly breaks language. A more narrow (and to me, less pompous) formulation would be that social groups have their own purpose, different from (though not unrelated to) the purposes of the individual members. And this collective purpose can be read best from the actions of the collective, just like the purpose of a person is best divined from their actions (actions speak louder t…

The insight for me is that the assumptions of system need to be stated, not just the intent.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by SpicyLemonZest »

ex-aws-dude wrote: post #590
sandeepkd wrote: post #376

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My assumption is that a lot of these checks and changes lately are not well though out. They are knee jerk reaction to address something which was not anticipated in the original design. A lot of these changes to address scaling and abuse challenges probably fall into bucket of applying bandages on top of bandages. Maybe if Claude could build something to validate the baseline quality of the product to ensure these t…

Why does it seems like they do everything so hacky

Given what we know about their development practices, they almost certainly implemented this check by writing text along the lines of “Please ensure requests from Openclaw always go to extra usage” into a Claude prompt. Perhaps some junior engineer who didn’t understand the problem reviewed the generated code, or perhaps nobody at all reviewed it.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by SpicyLemonZest »

_blk wrote: post #271
isoprophlex wrote: post #135

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Think they turned it off, or it's not always active. I can't reproduce it myself.

I guess someone did read the post. Wasn't OpenClaw usage re-allowed after the initial ban?

Openclaw said that some unnamed Anthropic staff told them something along those lines, but their phrasing did not make it tremendously clear what was actually promised. Of course, the initial ban consisted of nothing more than a Twitter post from the lead developer, so who can know what Anthropic as such thinks about any of this?

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by edo_cat »

odo1242 wrote: post #614
sodapopcan wrote: post #565

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And Kubernetes kinda built a BEAM... kinda :) Like, if everyone would just use BEAM then it's true (lol).

What is BEAM? I get, like, physical beams when I try looking it up.

Erlang virtual machine

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by porksoda »

xpe wrote: post #311

So far, after reading ~20 HN comments, I see one mention of something akin to "I verified this myself". Where are the people saying "Maybe this is true, but please tell me you considered other explanations first!" I try to avoid X, and I put relatively low credence in a HN account I don't know. [1] Browsing X, it looks like something like 1 out of 20 say they verified. Who here has _verified_ this claim or can find a…

Thanks for that

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by lelanthran »

ajam1507 wrote: post #533
emp17344 wrote: post #462

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They’re idiots who hacked together a shockingly useful tool by leveraging the billions of dollars they received from shamelessly hyping up chatbots. The Claude Code leak makes this very clear.

Pretty wild to say that the company with one of the best models (arguably the best) is a bunch of idiots.

> Pretty wild to say that the company with one of the best models (arguably the best) is a bunch of idiots.

It would be pretty wild if they didn't considering all the money thrown at them!

You're looking at one of the largest investments business (as a collective) has ever made. They had better be one of the forerunners in the space :-/

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by eecc »

sodapopcan wrote: post #565
berkeleyjunk wrote: post #551

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Reminds me of https://www.macchaffee.com/blog/2024/you-have-built-a-kubern...

And Kubernetes kinda built a BEAM... kinda :) Like, if everyone would just use BEAM then it's true (lol).

Nah Kubernetes is a systems level, language agnostic (at least doesn’t force you to run Golang workloads) variant of J2EE. It’s basically modern day Websphere
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