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Re: Twitter is Pivoting

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Of all the rhetorical points that Dalton makes, this one was the most damning for me: >>> His announcement was formatted as a direct reply to the official Twitter account. This means the announcement would only be seen by his followers that also follow the official Twitter account. I don’t get the feeling he did this on purpose. An experienced Twitter user would know to add a “.” at the beginning of his message so th…

http://www.quora.com/Twitter-1/Why-do-some-tweets-have-a-per... i knew twitter was broken but this takes the cake. i have been using twitter for years and had no idea.

I'm still confused. If I'm on someone's profile, the tweet box already includes @user. So if I go ahead and tweet in that box, it will not show up in my follower's feeds? It was not a "reply".

I would agree that's totally broken but live feeds aren't even usable past 10 or 20 followees anyway so maybe it doesn't matter that much?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>And, for an insurgent platform/viewpoint to succeed, it needs tireless promotion. Then I need to ramp up my userscript for client-side filtering Hacker News.

https://github.com/aaronbrethorst/NoBitcoin

I can not upvote this enough.

Re: Twitter is Pivoting

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why should a company criticising competition be viewed as a negative thing? Content quality trumps everything else. When something smart is being said, why does it matter who said it?

Not necessarily negative, but certainly suspect. He has financial a stake in the outcome of his criticism. Compare this to someone knocking Apple for something about iOS with the explicit hope that they fix it to his liking.

If the problems on iOS being criticized are real, I don't see a problem.

Can't you judge for yourself the content you are reading?

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The one point that really did not resonate with me is that companies will take over. Currently, companies are by far the worst tweeters and are totally dominated by individuals whether thy be celebrities, experts, citizen journalists, etc. Even the good tweeters who sort of tweet under a company umbrella define themselves more than their companies. Twitter seems to me that it will remain the anti-company network since it provides so much advantage to the collection of individuals.

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I hate to be that (negative) guy, but I'm starting to get really tired of Dalton constantly pissing all over twitter. Particularly because he's competing against them. I'm an App.net backer, and I think it's cool what he's doing, but FFS, let someone else carry the water, if it even needs carrying at all. This all just feels really petty and whiney, particularly when you're already at work solving the problem.

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I hate to be that (negative) guy, but I'm starting to get really tired of Dalton constantly pissing all over twitter. Particularly because he's competing against them. I'm an App.net backer, and I think it's cool what he's doing, but FFS, let someone else carry the water, if it even needs carrying at all. This all just feels really petty and whiney, particularly when you're already at work solving the problem.

Agreed, these posts (have been far too many lately) are annoying for three reasons.

1) There are better apps to build with Twitter's api than boring twitter clients.

2) There are plenty other clients to build for other web services if that's your thing.

3) As repeated by many people before, if you use someone's API they have control of how you use it. No point in whining, it's not like there is anything hidden or hard to understand here.

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I actually have used and are using twitter. It is a horrendous user experience - but I know how to fix it. My main problem is my diverse interest in different subjects and twitters current inability to let me organize and follow what I like. I'm following approx. 200 people divided 30% technology, 30% cycling and 30% friends/locals. For me, it would be impossible to imagine following more than 250 or 300 people with…

I've taken to using HootSuite as a primary Twitter client primarily as an interface to view various lists. I'm following the Baja 1000 off road race this week and while I'm looking for updates on the race I don't care so much about the web developers and other topics I follow. Next week I'll be back to looking for insight on various development topics and the late tweets on how hard the racers and their crews partied in Ensenada or La Paz don't matter much to me.

HootSuite doesn't have the prettiest interface but it is functional and reasonably fast for a web client so it works for me.

Re: Twitter is Pivoting

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So just reading the post I got a little confused (and then i found out he's the creator of App.net and wondered if his passion isn't clouding his best judgement) Firstly the quote: "Given that most of their traffic comes from us, if we build adequate if not superior competitors, I think we ought to be able to match them if not exceed them." - I just wasn't quite sure what this quote meant - I certainly didn't assume it mean't we're going to block them though. Maybe they did block them but shouldn't the correct quote end with "I think we ought to be able to block them"?

He's been using it for a long time to consume news and information. Ok, makes sense. Yet this is apparently objectionable or at the very least damming. I think it's damming because he says he's a consumer not a producer of tweets. Is this news to anyone?

"Admit failure and give up on trying to get normal people to tweet" The balance in twitter's tweet creation and consumption happened organically. Kudos to Twitter for allowing it to happen vs forcing unnatural acts? "You should tweet more!" I don't look too closely but it seems like it's been an open secret for 2 + years that 80% of all tweets come from 5 - 10% of users or whatever.

I guess I wouldn't call it a pivot if Twitter is focusing heavily on the 10% that do 90% of the tweeting vs trying to get the other 90% to tweet more.

Re: Twitter is Pivoting

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Of all the rhetorical points that Dalton makes, this one was the most damning for me: >>> His announcement was formatted as a direct reply to the official Twitter account. This means the announcement would only be seen by his followers that also follow the official Twitter account. I don’t get the feeling he did this on purpose. An experienced Twitter user would know to add a “.” at the beginning of his message so th…

Missing something important here: He didn't intend for it to be seen by everyone, he was simply replying to a tweet from @Twitter.

[citation needed]

His motivations are obviously only for us to guess at, but why bother replying at all if not for other people to see it?

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