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Re: Can I disable all data collection from my vehicle?

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Post by RevEng »

subscribed wrote: post #151
SoftTalker wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the term has been used for various capabilities over the years. My friend's 10-year-old Toyota will chirp annoyingly if you drift over a lane line but that's all it does. It doesn't have any ability to steer the car back into the center of the lane. Is that "lane keeping"?

Mine has either off, warn, or warn+adjust (but adjustment is very gentle, more of a nudge). I can imagine it can save a life someone dozing off and drifting.

Also great if you are distracted, perhaps by kids in the back or something happening on the side of the road. Mine has chirped at me a few times. It's basically the electronic version of rumble strips.

Re: Can I disable all data collection from my vehicle?

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Post by SamuelAdams »

jryio wrote: post #3

Reminds me of Zed's setting { "disable_ai": true } [1] Glad it's an option be it for regulatory compliance, security, privacy, or any combination of the three. [1]: https://zed.dev/blog/disable-ai-features

VSCode has this too: chat.disableAIFeatures

Sources:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46501220

https://code.visualstudio.com/updates/v1_104#_hide-and-disab...

Re: Can I disable all data collection from my vehicle?

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Post by RevEng »

cantalopes wrote: post #126

Why cant users disable connectivity elsewhere other thsn canada? People are supposed to call their car dealer each time after car update before turning it off again? Seems to be a cheap pr stunt to portray canadian regulation in attempt to shed good light on rivian

I don't know for certain, but likely because they are required to. There are lots of other examples where companies will only abide by regulations in places where it's required rather than applying it generally. A common example in Canada is with things like lotteries, coupons, or returns - many things exempt Quebec because it's not allowed there, but the companies still place that burden on everyone else they can.

Re: Can I disable all data collection from my vehicle?

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Post by roflchoppa »

traderj0e wrote: post #138
surge wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm pretty sure decent ones run about 50-80 dollars, a very good one.

Oh that's not bad at all, I thought it was like $500. My cheapo knockoff was $20.

Have you flashed anything? I need to flash the gearbox on my CRV, really wanted to DIY it at home and not get upcharged by the stealerships.

https://www.crvownersclub.com/attachments/tsb-15-086-crv-tra...

Re: Can I disable all data collection from my vehicle?

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Post by rootusrootus »

afh1 wrote: post #169
Cider9986 wrote: post #36

Related: Mozilla did a review of different cars for privacy: ( https://www.mozillafoundation.org/en/privacynotincluded/arti... ) >Nissan earned its second-to-last spot for collecting some of the creepiest categories of data we have ever seen. [Their privacy policy] includes your “sexual activity.” Not to be out done, Kia also mentions they can collect information about your “sex life” in their privacy policy. Oh, and…

Main reason why I will never buy an EV, and keep driving my Internet-free Honda until it dies, which will likely be after me.

nothing about this has anything to do with EVs

Re: Can I disable all data collection from my vehicle?

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Post by troad »

Latty wrote: post #61
jryio wrote: post #3

Reminds me of Zed's setting { "disable_ai": true } [1] Glad it's an option be it for regulatory compliance, security, privacy, or any combination of the three. [1]: https://zed.dev/blog/disable-ai-features

Firefox also has a setting like this, although I think it's even nicer in that it makes everything (current and future) AI default to opt-out, but still lets you opt in to specific use cases if you want.

Firefox took an awfully long time to get that global setting. It was clear that Mozilla Corp hoped they might be able to push AI services as a revenue generator, before the AI pushback.

Re: Can I disable all data collection from my vehicle?

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Post by UqWBcuFx6NV4r »

monegator wrote: post #142
codazoda wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is tangential, but Kia declined to cover an engine failure, under warranty that was extended by recall, because I had not done an update. Edit: I eventually recovered most of the cost via a settlement court.

Yeah, because you allegedly consented to them being able to update your ECUs via the mobile link in the cars when you bought the car. As if I needed another reason to keep my 2014 skoda. If i ever have to get a new car, i will disable telemetry, and i will buy it either without telemetry, or with the agreement that i do not consent to telemetry. (read the fine print before getting a new car. the shit they can do that…

I assure you that “old cars costing as much as new ones” isn’t the result of the market force of people reading contractual fine print and/or freaking out about telemetry. Concentric circles of echo chambers over here.

Re: Can I disable all data collection from my vehicle?

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Post by Brian_K_White »

jamilbk wrote: post #2

I remember yanking out the onstar unit in my 2015 silverado to physically disconnect the cell antenna. This was (is?) the only practical way to disable cellular in that vehicle. Kudos to Rivian for making this a supported user privacy feature.

Similar I got a new 2025 4runner last summer and...

A: never once installed the app or registered an account, which flummoxxed the salesman so much he argued with me for 10 minutes trying to say that I had to set up the app to even take delivery, even though I paid cash in full. He even cried to mama (the manager) to find out what to do about this impossible situation. In the end, of course you do not actually need to install the app, even temporarily just for a one-time setup, or even register an account. But MAN do they want you to.

B: Within a few weeks found that someone makes a kit that lets you completely disconnect the telemetry & internet functionality module while providing some pass-through connections that normally go through that box.

Apparently in this case all the bad stuff is conveniently in one box you can disconnect, and still have normal bluetooth for android auto, apple car play, or plain bluetooth headset & media. So still have gps & media on the console stcreen. I can only assume that this won't stay so convenient. They could have anything require anything else any time they want.

They do offer an official way to disable all internet features (remote start from your phone from any distance, remote vehicle monitor, tracking/shutdown, etc), but all that does is disable the useful functions for you, while not disabling any of the functions they use for themselves. It's still actively logging and uploading data, and they still have the ability to remotely track and even disable the vehicle.

I've been to the dealer (different from purchase) once for a free oil change and they didn't say anything. So idk if they even tried to do any updates, or they have some other way to do it or what.

https://www.autoharnesshouse.com/store/AHH-DCM77

Re: Can I disable all data collection from my vehicle?

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Post by xp84 »

booi wrote: post #46
xp84 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe in theory, but I trust Apple to detect a crash correctly about as far as I can throw my iPhone without breaking its glass back or front. This is the company whose flagship voice assistant, in 2026, can’t tell the intended recipient in a sentence like “Text Bob Mary signed the deal.” And if my phone happens to be thrown into the back of the car by the crash, I doubt anyone will be able to hear me. Not to mention…

sorry, I didn't find someone named "bob mary" in your contacts list

Yup! Or it starts a group text with Bob AND Mary saying “signed the deal”
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