Anonymous better hope they are just that. The Israelis play by their own rules when it comes to self defense and retaliation.
Anonymous takes down over 550 Israeli sites, wipes databases
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#52I could understand attacking government websites as a protest, but why go after random civilian sites? They're just associating themselves with the worst part of the Palestinian resistance that way.
Anonymous has never had a particularly sophisticated political stance.
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#531) These script kiddies are not Anonymous; 2) The majority of the sites affected appear to be hosted with a single company; 3) If any of the deleted databases held important information, there will be backups. Edit: 4) The leaked passwords appear to be site-specific; all are six characters long, around a third of them are '123456'
>1) These script kiddies are not Anonymous; I think you may be overestimating "the real Anonymous".
I think you may both be misunderstanding who "Anonymous" is.
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#541) These script kiddies are not Anonymous; 2) The majority of the sites affected appear to be hosted with a single company; 3) If any of the deleted databases held important information, there will be backups. Edit: 4) The leaked passwords appear to be site-specific; all are six characters long, around a third of them are '123456'
Isn't the point of "Anonymous" precisely that nobody (and everybody) is "Anonymous"?
Yes. Anyone and everyone is, has been and can be "Anonymous"
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#55I wish I had some strong belief about how one side or the other was right, some plan to fix everything. But I don't. All I have is sadness.
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
Heavy bombing of densely populated areas? It's rather simple. As a general rule, civilians in the Gaza Strip know if they are near a target. You don't live next to a rocket manufacturing, storage or launch site without knowing about it. The IDF have gone to great pains to warn civilians not to go near these sites, or to mix with combatants. They send text messages, drop leaflets, even make phone calls with recorded m…
Sites like the UN school Israel fired White Phosphorus into? http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2012/01/02/cast-lead-remem... Give me a break.
There's no need to use such bad/hateful sources. Here are some better ones:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/series/gaza-war-crimes-inves... http://www.hrw.org/publications/reports?topic=All®ion... http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcouncil/specialsessio...
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#57Interesting and encouraging to see that most of the discussion here on HN is about rockets and bombing, casualties and fear, and not so much about the action. The anonymous statement however, seems primarily concerned with internet disconnection ?! I don't try to underestimate the importance of freedom of speech, and the internet being an essential source of free information. But aren't other freedoms - or human righ…
To be fair to them, cutting the internet could be considered a pretty big deal, if in your perspective doing so would hinder the dissemination of information about atrocities being committed.
Is that where the line should be drawn? I personally don't think so, but I can certainly understand the concern over something that might, in other contexts, be just the removal of a nice luxury.
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#58I wish I had some strong belief about how one side or the other was right, some plan to fix everything. But I don't. All I have is sadness.
I'm with you -- I wish I had some unique insight into their conflict; but the more I read, the more confused I get
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#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
You are not disputing that they are bombing a densely populated area. You are saying that they have to take precautions because they are bombing a heavily populated area.
Still they are rather humane compared to their enemy who is actively targeting civilians. And have been doing that so for years. What is your solution to this conflict that doesn't include wiping the only national state for the Israeli people, created by UN, off the map? Hamas has been quite clear there will be no lasting peace until that has happened as far as I know. (Full disclosure: I don't read arabic so I'm hav…
Well, bombing the Gaza Strip is clearly working. The conflict is all but over. Oh wait...
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#60I have no specific opinion on Israel attacking Gaza since I don't know the whole story. But if civilian websites are going to be taken down, then what security do we have that our websites will not be affected in future!!! We can't control the decisions our governments make!!