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How Mark Klein told the EFF about Room 641A [book excerpt]

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Re: How Mark Klein told the EFF about Room 641A [book excerpt]

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Are we pretending this isn't a global phenomenon?

Overseas, cash is king. In Canada, and also in San Francisco, you can only tap your credit card because cash carries COVID [0]. [0] https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/cash-coronavirus-questions-an...

If a shop won't accept cash, I just leave.

Re: How Mark Klein told the EFF about Room 641A [book excerpt]

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post #31

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Overseas, cash is king. In Canada, and also in San Francisco, you can only tap your credit card because cash carries COVID [0]. [0] https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/cash-coronavirus-questions-an...

If a shop won't accept cash, I just leave.

You weren't transacting at all in Toronto during COVID then.

This is the endgame of surveillance capitalism: submission, or opting out. Few can, or care enough to, do the latter.

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Yep, my thoughts as well. And I say this as someone who not only has a chronic mental health disorder that sometimes manifests as paranoia, but someone who used to work in the IC for 10 years (it has been a while since then). Is it possible? Sure. But it is very unlikely that much resources and effort would be devoted to someone that made a few critical comments.

Yea I mean there are hundreds of thousands of ex punk rockers with "F [insert 3 letter agency here]" on their leather jackets and whatever. I don't think these types of people are that soft skinned they'd chase down everyone who said screw them. I post on here all the time reminding people that tech companies are defense companies. Because I think it's important people remember what that implies. No one is chasing me…

> Pretty cool of you to share your experiences bladegash. I always thought they wouldn't let people with mental health conditions into those environments. Shows what I know.

Some mental health conditions, like mine, don’t really show up until later in life and it is at least part of the reason I no longer work in that field :).

However, things are well managed now and I have a good career in the private sector!

Re: How Mark Klein told the EFF about Room 641A [book excerpt]

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I run a HN voting algorithm and opinion manipulation system across a few hundred accounts - only a few on any individual post. I use residential proxies to prevent correlation. The account I'm using right now to confess this to you is one that's already been burned. Downvoting this comment is funny, because it's a burned account anyway, so not hurting me, and you want less people to know this fact about HN?

Do you represent an agency?

Try it, it's really not that hard. I feel bad saying this and I don't do anything like this anymore but I did make a few accounts behind residential IPs that posted HN popular sentiments on topics that were actually factually incorrect and got a lot of upvotes pretty quickly. I stopped because I felt icky with how corrosive the whole thing could end up being. This was a while ago so not sure if new user sign up has become more difficult.

It turns out that open web forums are mostly emotional places and often the most inflammatory or in group opinions rise to the top. With that knowledge, manipulation isn't that tough.

Re: How Mark Klein told the EFF about Room 641A [book excerpt]

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Entire generations of people who were never alive to remember a world where their every movement and utterance was not being tracked by the advertising/surveillance industrial complex. It's just considered normal now. The west is very sick.

Are we pretending this isn't a global phenomenon?

In many ways the west is copying what the East and the Middle East are doing. It’s quite concerning that democratic governments and their electorate are going with it, but to be “fair” this seems to be a somewhat orchestrated global phenomenon. Of course it’s not good.

Re: How Mark Klein told the EFF about Room 641A [book excerpt]

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Didn't see it in the actual text of the article, but as a caption of one of the images. The actual book this is excerpted from is Privacy's Defender by Cindy Cohn https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262051248/privacys-defender/

Aka the Executive Director of the EFF.

Re: How Mark Klein told the EFF about Room 641A [book excerpt]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are we pretending this isn't a global phenomenon?

Overseas, cash is king. In Canada, and also in San Francisco, you can only tap your credit card because cash carries COVID [0]. [0] https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/cash-coronavirus-questions-an...

curious which overseas country that doesn't fall under the 'west' has cash as king

Re: How Mark Klein told the EFF about Room 641A [book excerpt]

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Entire generations of people who were never alive to remember a world where their every movement and utterance was not being tracked by the advertising/surveillance industrial complex. It's just considered normal now. The west is very sick.

  That wisdom will not be much comfort to babies born last week. The first news they get in this world will be News subjected to Military Censorship. That is a given in wartime, along with massive campaigns of deliberately-planted "Dis-information." That is routine behavior in Wartime -- for all countries and all combatants -- and it makes life difficult for people who value real news.
When War Drums Roll, Hunter S. Thompson, https://www.espn.com/page2/s/thompson/010918.html
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