For Linux kernel vulnerabilities, there is no heads-up to distributions
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For Linux kernel vulnerabilities, there is no heads-up to distributions
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Re: For Linux kernel vulnerabilities, there is no heads-up to distributions
#2Anyway, this is a disaster. It was extremely irresponsible to share the exploit with the world before the distributions shipped the fix. Who knows how many shared hosting providers were hacked with this.
It's also worrying that it seems there's no communication between the kernel security team and distribution maintainers. One would hope that the former would notify the latter, but apparently it's the responsibility of whoever finds the vulnerability.
Re: For Linux kernel vulnerabilities, there is no heads-up to distributions
#3https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/new-linux-cop...
Re: For Linux kernel vulnerabilities, there is no heads-up to distributions
#4For context, the author of the linked post, Sam James, is a Gentoo developer. Anyway, this is a disaster. It was extremely irresponsible to share the exploit with the world before the distributions shipped the fix. Who knows how many shared hosting providers were hacked with this. It's also worrying that it seems there's no communication between the kernel security team and distribution maintainers. One would hope th…
I'm honestly unaware of what systems could be put in place to prevent this but expecting people to always do the right thing is fantasy level thinking. I mean I bet the disclosers thought they were doing the right thing, hence why it's a bad thing to rely on.
edit: spelling/grammer.
Re: For Linux kernel vulnerabilities, there is no heads-up to distributions
#5For context, the author of the linked post, Sam James, is a Gentoo developer. Anyway, this is a disaster. It was extremely irresponsible to share the exploit with the world before the distributions shipped the fix. Who knows how many shared hosting providers were hacked with this. It's also worrying that it seems there's no communication between the kernel security team and distribution maintainers. One would hope th…
Expecting people to do the right thing is a fundamental issue here. Why would you ever expect for all of vulnerabilities to be disclosed privately? There's very little actual incentive to do this. I'm honestly unaware of what systems could be put in place to prevent this but expecting people to always do the right thing is fantasy level thinking. I mean I bet the disclosers thought they were doing the right thing, he…
Re: For Linux kernel vulnerabilities, there is no heads-up to distributions
#6The Bleeping Computer link below mentions a potential remedy until a patch is ready. https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/new-linux-cop...
Re: For Linux kernel vulnerabilities, there is no heads-up to distributions
#7Why would they imply it is incumbent on the reporter to liaise with distributions? That seems to assume a high level of familiarity with the linux project. Vulnerability reporters shouldn’t be responsible for directly working with every downstream consumer of the linux kernel, what’s the limiting principal there? Should the reporter also be directly talking to all device manufacturers that use Linux on their machines?
IMO reporter did more than enough by responsibly disclosing it to linux and waiting for a patch to land.
Aren’t there people in the linux project itself with authority over and responsibility for security vulnerabilities? One would think they would be the ones notifying downstream distros…
Re: For Linux kernel vulnerabilities, there is no heads-up to distributions
#8The Bleeping Computer link below mentions a potential remedy until a patch is ready. https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/new-linux-cop...
Re: For Linux kernel vulnerabilities, there is no heads-up to distributions
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
Expecting people to do the right thing is a fundamental issue here. Why would you ever expect for all of vulnerabilities to be disclosed privately? There's very little actual incentive to do this. I'm honestly unaware of what systems could be put in place to prevent this but expecting people to always do the right thing is fantasy level thinking. I mean I bet the disclosers thought they were doing the right thing, he…
Why wouldn't the linux security team notify the main linux distributions?
Re: For Linux kernel vulnerabilities, there is no heads-up to distributions
#10For context, the author of the linked post, Sam James, is a Gentoo developer. Anyway, this is a disaster. It was extremely irresponsible to share the exploit with the world before the distributions shipped the fix. Who knows how many shared hosting providers were hacked with this. It's also worrying that it seems there's no communication between the kernel security team and distribution maintainers. One would hope th…
Expecting people to do the right thing is a fundamental issue here. Why would you ever expect for all of vulnerabilities to be disclosed privately? There's very little actual incentive to do this. I'm honestly unaware of what systems could be put in place to prevent this but expecting people to always do the right thing is fantasy level thinking. I mean I bet the disclosers thought they were doing the right thing, he…
But publishing a working exploit together with the disclosure before patches are available is really really irresponsible, maybe even criminal.
And no, the proposed mitigations don't help with half of the distributions out there...