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Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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I reproduced this on my account. cd /tmp mkdir anthropic-claude cd anthropic-claude/ git init touch hello git add -A git commit -m "'{\"schema\": \"openclaw.inbound_meta.v1\"}'" claude -p "hi" Immediate disconnect and session usage went to 100%

That's malicious and I think this is scamming from the literal money (you didn't do anything wrong, you executed one command and they scammed you out of the fair usage you paid for). Please raise the ticket or at least GitHub issue for visibility. Sooner or later some sort of complaint to the relevant trade authority should happen - this is a scam operation at this point.

No. Hanlon's razor applies here.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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I did this and I use small local models as a productivity booster. It's been refreshing

Hints or tips on how to start with local models? I’m considering a new MacBook Pro and wondering if I should take that into account.

The biggest hint I have is set a budget. Then try some models out on either cloud instances or a computer you own. See if they work for you.

Spec your machine accordingly. Some models I recommend trying to get a feel for what's out there. Qwen 3.6 35b a3b, granite4.1 8b, llama 3.2 3b.

There are plenty of others but those give a good taste for different sizes and what they can do. If it's not enough then you are out maybe 5 bucks.

Also check in with r/localllama they have a bunch of people who can help you go further, spec machines, get better performance and results. If you don't want to post that's cool but there are lots of comments on how to get going. They are pretty friendly though so I'd read the rules and make a post asking for help

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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You say that like it's a gotcha. I think the fact that they reached 2B/mo in revenue by dogfooding cc is all the proof that one needs that this thing actually works. In fact it works so well that more people want it than they can serve. For months now they've been having issues when EU and US tz are both online at the same time.

Not really. A person will eventually drink dirty water if it was the only thing available in a desert. There's very little competition for SOTA models. The models themselves also weren't built by Claude. The current revenue has almost nothing to do with what Claude built. Hell if it was so far ahead then they wouldn't be desperately trying to block OpenCode.

> The models themselves also weren't built by Claude. The current revenue has almost nothing to do with what Claude built.

Ummm, no. Anthropic is #1 in coding because they developed it first. Then they used data + signals to train models specifically to work best with cc. They work together. Why do you think every provider (including chinese ones) have their own harnesses? Having real-world data and usage metrics helps training the models in immense ways.

Having features fast in this case >>> having perfect features. Some of them they dropped along the way, but having them in the pair cc + models is what matters. People switched from Cursor to cc in droves because it worked better there. That's not a fluke. That's how you improve your models, by collecting real world data after you launch them.

> Hell if it was so far ahead then they wouldn't be desperately trying to block OpenCode.

That's a lack of compute problem.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

#224

Subscription models only work when marginal costs are low and/or there’s a good variety of usage that roughly averages out. Or, you need to be able to kick out abuse. Unfortunately for those of us who just want to eat a nice filling meal at the fixed price all you can eat buffet of AI subscriptions, a minority of customers keeps paying for the all you can eat buffet and staying for hours and bringing containers to sn…

Nobody is stopping them from capping usage at 3x subscription price. Except themselves, because it'll ruin their revenue growth story once they stop selling dollars for cents.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Also they ain't wrong. In what other context does OpenClaw get mentioned? "You may not use our service if you mention OpenClaw" is a harsh line but hardly illegal or forbidden any more than any other service restriction (i.e. no use allowed for high-stakes financial modeling). Don't like it, cancel your plan.

> is a harsh line But that's the thing -- there is no line! Where is this specified? How can we know what service restrictions there are? For all I know, my plan could be exhausted at any point during the workday just because I happened to touch on some keyword Anthropic has decided to ban. > Don't like it, cancel your plan. Ah, but I thought these models were supposed to have been trained for the sake of humanity? T…

> I thought these models were supposed to have been trained for the sake of humanity?

Tbh blocking OpenClaw might just be for the betterment of humanity. It's yet to be proven either way.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Its not Claude Code. Its "Fraud Code". All of this is just criminal and fraudulent behavior, done July a whole bunch of people who haven't learned their lesson, and keep sending Anthropic more money for abuse at scale.

It's in the TOS, so no, not fraud. You might not like it that Anthropic doesn't want you running OpenClaw (effectively owned by a competitor) on CC, but that doesn't make it fraudulent or criminal.

Isn't this precisely the pattern of behavior that gets you sued for anti-competitive practices?

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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There is literally nothing close to illegal about this behavior. You read the terms of service right, which provides a long list of explicit and implicit disclaimers?

So, in America, just because it's written in a contract does not mean it's enforceable in anyway. I can make you sign a infinitely generating contract, that doesn't mean it's enforceable/

> just because it's written in a contract does not mean it's enforceable in anyway

And we continue slipping into lawlessness and a low trust society...

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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That's malicious and I think this is scamming from the literal money (you didn't do anything wrong, you executed one command and they scammed you out of the fair usage you paid for). Please raise the ticket or at least GitHub issue for visibility. Sooner or later some sort of complaint to the relevant trade authority should happen - this is a scam operation at this point.

No. Hanlon's razor applies here.

You lose little by assuming malicious intent when it comes to billion-dollar tech companies and your money. They can prove otherwise by remedying the situation.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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why do people want to continue to use anthropic despite their shitty service? its not like they have some kind of lock-in as it is still new company and it has shown its color before we are stuck with it unlike google/meta etc.

That's a great question. Maybe other services have flaws too.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

#230

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That's malicious and I think this is scamming from the literal money (you didn't do anything wrong, you executed one command and they scammed you out of the fair usage you paid for). Please raise the ticket or at least GitHub issue for visibility. Sooner or later some sort of complaint to the relevant trade authority should happen - this is a scam operation at this point.

There are many possible explanations for this outcome to have occurred other than malice. If you're an engineer by trade, consider how many bugs you've been responsible for over the course of your career that you didn't intend. Probably a lot. How about we turn down the heat, everyone?

How about no?

Why should we coddle a corporations when they screw over customers?

It matters very little if they did this out of incompetence or malice.

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