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Spain's parliament will act against massive IP blockages by LaLiga

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Re: Spain's parliament will act against massive IP blockages by LaLiga

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Context: last year LaLiga (top-level Spanish football league) obtained a court order compelling Spanish ISPs to block certain IPs during football matches, as those IPs have been associated with illegal streams of live matches. Many of those IPs are shared Cloudflare IPs, with the result being many legitimate sites become unavailable in Spain during LaLiga matches https://cybernews.com/news/spain-laliga-streaming-pira…

I fervently hope that no one manages to obtain a similar judgment at the pan-EU level, that would be a disaster.

Re: Spain's parliament will act against massive IP blockages by LaLiga

#15

Context: last year LaLiga (top-level Spanish football league) obtained a court order compelling Spanish ISPs to block certain IPs during football matches, as those IPs have been associated with illegal streams of live matches. Many of those IPs are shared Cloudflare IPs, with the result being many legitimate sites become unavailable in Spain during LaLiga matches https://cybernews.com/news/spain-laliga-streaming-pira…

I fervently hope that no one manages to obtain a similar judgment at the pan-EU level, that would be a disaster.

I actually hope they do. this will force a proper reckoning about the situation and maybe a proper fix.

Re: Spain's parliament will act against massive IP blockages by LaLiga

#16

Context: last year LaLiga (top-level Spanish football league) obtained a court order compelling Spanish ISPs to block certain IPs during football matches, as those IPs have been associated with illegal streams of live matches. Many of those IPs are shared Cloudflare IPs, with the result being many legitimate sites become unavailable in Spain during LaLiga matches https://cybernews.com/news/spain-laliga-streaming-pira…

I fervently hope that no one manages to obtain a similar judgment at the pan-EU level, that would be a disaster.

At that scale, it might make Cloudflare customers reconsider their affiliations. It might not be as terrible.

By affecting only Spain, the impact is too small for most websites to care.

Re: Spain's parliament will act against massive IP blockages by LaLiga

#17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I fervently hope that no one manages to obtain a similar judgment at the pan-EU level, that would be a disaster.

At that scale, it might make Cloudflare customers reconsider their affiliations. It might not be as terrible. By affecting only Spain, the impact is too small for most websites to care.

What other provider than Cloudflare is out there that offers the things Cloudflare does? Why are people not already switching to them if they are available?

Re: Spain's parliament will act against massive IP blockages by LaLiga

#18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I fervently hope that no one manages to obtain a similar judgment at the pan-EU level, that would be a disaster.

I actually hope they do. this will force a proper reckoning about the situation and maybe a proper fix.

On the one hand, I would tend to agree that making things painful enough might force people to stop ignoring and improve things. On the other, after seeing waves hands at everything since 2016 makes me very skeptical of accelerationism: sometimes things just get worse and worse, there's no bottom to bounce from. Or maybe we just never really hit rock bottom?

Re: Spain's parliament will act against massive IP blockages by LaLiga

#19
I'm torn on this. It always should have gone through the courts, but the fact is that cloudflare are providing access to illegal content and not doing anything about it. They were left with two choices if Cloudflare refuse to act. Either accept it (oh well, too big to fail), or block them.

I dislike what is happening but I kind of like that they don't care about the size of Cloudflare and hold them as accountable as they would a small hosting company in Belarus. Blocking entire ranges due to illegal content isn't exactly new, the scale is new.

Again though, I really dislike that it isn't going through the legal system

Re: Spain's parliament will act against massive IP blockages by LaLiga

#20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I fervently hope that no one manages to obtain a similar judgment at the pan-EU level, that would be a disaster.

At that scale, it might make Cloudflare customers reconsider their affiliations. It might not be as terrible. By affecting only Spain, the impact is too small for most websites to care.

If they compelled Cloudflare to do so, what makes you think they couldn't compel whatever provider those customers then switch to?
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