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Re: Zed 1.0

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Post by jlledo »

piskov wrote: post #493

Could anyone tell me what’s the point of this when you have neovim? This will never be an IDE like Jetbrains Rider if you use a language like C# where those guys excel at: sheer volume of refactorings, static and dynamic analysis, cpu and memory analysis, what have you. And for a scratchpad: is this really better than neovim?

Agreed on the language IDE points.

As for scratchpad: I’ve actually been going back and forth between Zed and neovim. Imo Zed is a good graphical editor with sane defaults and preconfigured tools (and excellent vim emulation). It will never beat neovim's configurability but it’s a smooth experience ootb.

Nowadays I just use both but default to Zed because it can be used both for Windows (for work, don’t @ me) and WSL. Neovim for quick file edits outside my main workspace, editing change descriptions, etc. - $EDITOR stuff.

I could probably get away with plain vim as $EDITOR, but throwing away a perfectly valid neovim config seems silly.

Re: Zed 1.0

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Post by andelink »

sieve wrote: post #183
Meekro wrote: post #44

I really want to like Zed because they've clearly put so much work into it, but so far I've been sticking with Sublime. I have several large PHP projects that were started in the 2010-2020 era, and Zed will highlight and complain about all sorts of minor things that were standard PHP fare at the time: functions without return types, for example. My code (which works fine) looks like an ocean of red when I view it wit…

I was using JetBrains for more than a decade. Then I got into Python as well and so was juggling between WebStorm, PyCharm, CLion and Intellij Idea. Zed has replaced the first three completely. Put the appropriate config file in project root for whichever LSP/linter/tool is running, and most of these warnings disappear. Writing C in Zed is a wonderful experience. The LSPs surface errors in an manner that is very easy…

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Re: Zed 1.0

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Post by swordsith »

Seems like a de-webbed fork of this is a no brainer. its crazy what they think people will just take lying down from a open source project.

Re: Zed 1.0

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Post by foxylad »

joefitzgerald wrote: post #243
giancarlostoro wrote: post #75

Congrats to the Zed team for building the best modern editor I have ever used. I subscribe to the monthly plan just to give you guys the funding you need, even if my funding is a tiny drop in the bucket. I always wanted a feature rich alternative to Sublime Text that can run anywhere and do basically anything I need from it. I've use JetBrains IDEs for years (been subscribed annually since 2017), but since Zed I have…

Zed really is delightful to use. I haven't had any need to open VSCode in over a year. Extending it has been relatively simple, even as someone who doesn't know Rust well. The Zed team seem to have really learned their lesson on performance from the Atom days, because it's very performant. @nathansobo, @maxbrunsfeld, @as-cii and the team, congrats!

I only open VSCode when I need to resolve a conflicted merge. The Zed interface is basically diff2, and doesn't show character-level differences.

Apparently Zed was working on a better diff viewer, but that seems to have been shelved.

Re: Zed 1.0

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Post by eviks »

nielsbot wrote: post #206

Does a native UI experience have no value these days? I mean--amazing achievement building an alternate GPU-accelerated UI framework from scratch, and I do love the responsiveness, but this leaves you with a non-native app that doesn't follow OS conventions and will not get appearance and behavior updates going forward without a lot of additional effort.

The value depends entirely on specific conventions, but you've mentioned none. There is also value in consistent UI across platforms (which native UI don't support) as for some conventions you'd prefer to ignore the OS defaults.

Re: Zed 1.0

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Post by rickybule »

Nobody in the post or the comment talked about how it is built on top of / similarly to Godot Engine. Congrats to the Zed team!

Re: Zed 1.0

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Post by shimman »

john_strinlai wrote: post #230
obeavs wrote: post #97

What an abysmal series of top comments. These guys created a phenomenal product using novel technology, which will only continue to improve. Great work to the Zed team.

yeah, all forms of criticism, all feature suggestions, any comparisons to other products/solutions, etc. should be outright banned by HN. if you aren't praising the thing, get out! (do you comment this same type of thing on github, microsoft, apple, etc. posts? all of these comments seem absolutely tame compared to the vitriol in those threads. most top comments here are supportive. most of the negative ones are cons…

Did Zed ever answer their code of conduct violation?

https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/discussions/36604

Re: Zed 1.0

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Post by Zetaphor »

ricardobeat wrote: post #471
coldtea wrote: post #450

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What exactly is phenomenal and novel about Zed? I've tried it a couple of times for a week or so, didn't see the point, and moved on every time. And I'm not luddite swearing by vi or something, I use VSCode and Idea, and have used Sublime for many years, Xcode on/off for some Obj-C/Swift dev, Eclipse for 5-6 years in the 2000s, and vim for everything cli/lightweight since forever. Is the GUI tech what's supposed to b…

Currently on this machine: using 900MB of RAM, including all language servers, with nine open projects - that is pretty phenomenal. VSCode could barely keep one open with the same memory. The perception of 'fast' is very subjective. To me having a smooth, jitter-free UI, low input latency, and instant startup, all matter a lot.

I understand wanting your software to be well optimized, but at no point in my years of using VSCode have I ever actually had to care about how much RAM it's using. I have 32GB, I'm going to use it.

Re: Zed 1.0

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Post by metaltyphoon »

jlledo wrote: post #521
piskov wrote: post #493

Could anyone tell me what’s the point of this when you have neovim? This will never be an IDE like Jetbrains Rider if you use a language like C# where those guys excel at: sheer volume of refactorings, static and dynamic analysis, cpu and memory analysis, what have you. And for a scratchpad: is this really better than neovim?

Agreed on the language IDE points. As for scratchpad: I’ve actually been going back and forth between Zed and neovim. Imo Zed is a good graphical editor with sane defaults and preconfigured tools (and excellent vim emulation). It will never beat neovim's configurability but it’s a smooth experience ootb. Nowadays I just use both but default to Zed because it can be used both for Windows (for work, don’t @ me) and WSL…

Wait… Neovim also works on windows no?

Re: Zed 1.0

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Post by neya »

obeavs wrote: post #97

What an abysmal series of top comments. These guys created a phenomenal product using novel technology, which will only continue to improve. Great work to the Zed team.

From what I can see, one of the top comments (at the time of this comment) is worried about legalese claiming to have "non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free, fully paid-up, non-sublicensable" access to your source code. I think it is very fair criticism to not want to give away your source code.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47953501

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