If they had gotten their sports programming up and running, this might have gone differently. That part of the in-store demo was incredible, and I don't even care about sports that much.
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Re: Apple Has Given Up on the Vision Pro After M5 Refresh Flop
#42Apple has really dropped the ball recently, as someone who was a die-hard apple fan 10 years ago now I've started moving off the ecosystem.
10 years ago was pre apple silicon which is an orders of magnitude more impactful win than anything else that you might want to hold against them. So I'm not sure how you go from being a die hard fan 10 years ago to not just because you dont like a vr headset and the software has gotten a little sloppy.
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#43A lot of comments on this talking about how an AR/VR product would never make it but I think a lot of people fail to understand just how badly Apple failed to meet existing VR/AR developers where they are. Apple told us all to learn Swift and port our projects or pay thousands of dollars in Unity licensing costs to ship our existing projects to the new platform. Was incredibly heartbreaking to realize I simply can't…
>"Apple failed to meet existing VR/AR developers where they are. Apple told us all to learn Swift and port our projects or pay thousands of dollars in Unity licensing costs to ship our existing projects to the new platform."
The thing is there's still no actual platform for AR, and Apple took probably the very best shot at giving us one. Your other options are Meta's pile of React garbage "Horizon OS", or Android... which is Android. Sure Steam is great on the PC, but it's been proven pretty conclusively at this point that tethered devices are a dead end for niche hobbyists. Like it or not, visionOS is by far the only viable platform moving forward after Daydream and Fuchsia were abandoned.
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#44Vision Pro, the metaverse, all this money-sink tech the money for which could’ve fed the world a hundred times over... late-stage capitalism is a circus. We were promised hoverboards.
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#45I've never been impressed with VR/AR.
But on a work trip I visited an Apple Store and tried out Apple Vision. I was quite honestly blown away by how capable and usable it was.
The price is clearly prohibitive, and as a general-rule-of-thumb avoid first-generation anything Apple.
I would happily work in a Apple Vision environment. However that weight and price needs to come down.
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#46This article is an opinion piece. It doesn’t have any substantive claims, even from insiders that this is the case. It’s most credible claim is that people are moving about to new projects which is not irregular in the least.
It matches my lived experience. None of my friends use AVP. It is gathering dust. Do you have data on the contrary that AVP is growing gangbusters (like say, Macbook Neo?)
That’s a bit of an absurd rebuttal.
1. I’m not making the claim it’s selling well. I’m just saying the article puts forth no supporting claim beyond the authors own repetitive opinion.
2. Your lived experience is (no offence intended) meaningless to the discussion unless you somehow live a very related lifestyle. Conversely many of my friends have Vision Pros because they use them professionally. I wouldn’t extrapolate anything from that.
Re: Apple Has Given Up on the Vision Pro After M5 Refresh Flop
#47If they had gotten their sports programming up and running, this might have gone differently. That part of the in-store demo was incredible, and I don't even care about sports that much.
Concerts and performances as well. Taylor Swift fans could have saved the device by themselves lol.
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#48surprisingly, the people I saw getting the most use out the Apple Vision Pro has been healthcare workers (even though that's already incredibly rare to see). There was a doctor I used to talk to at my old job that swore by it. He would pin EPIC app windows in individual patient rooms and would use the built-in microphones for doing speech dictation on patient charts. I thought it sounded a little goofy when he was ex…
It is not very different from the Microsoft thing, that found its only place in maintenance crews of complex equipment in factory floors and hangars.
"only place".
There are quite a large number factory floors across the entire world. That's a fairly large niche.
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#49A lot of comments on this talking about how an AR/VR product would never make it but I think a lot of people fail to understand just how badly Apple failed to meet existing VR/AR developers where they are. Apple told us all to learn Swift and port our projects or pay thousands of dollars in Unity licensing costs to ship our existing projects to the new platform. Was incredibly heartbreaking to realize I simply can't…
>"Apple failed to meet existing VR/AR developers where they are. Apple told us all to learn Swift and port our projects or pay thousands of dollars in Unity licensing costs to ship our existing projects to the new platform." The thing is there's still no actual platform for AR, and Apple took probably the very best shot at giving us one. Your other options are Meta's pile of React garbage "Horizon OS", or Android...…
That's the sort of thinking that killed Kodiak and ibm and xerox. There's absolutely a better way to do this platform. Apple just cannot bring itself to make another mac. It has to be another iPhone.
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#50Not that I was ever in the market for this type of tech, but Apple also gave up on the Newton...