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Re: Zed 1.0

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Post by ksymph »

kashnote wrote: post #412

Can anyone comment on the inline AI tab completion performance of Zed compared to Cursor? Hoping to move away from Cursor as it seems like they break my settings every time they push an update and Vim motions stop working at random. The only thing stopping me from leaving Cursor is their tab completion, which is honestly just incredible.

It's okay -- usable but definitely a downgrade from Cursor. Basic pattern matching completion works pretty well, but you won't be zipping around the codebase in the same way as with Cursor, which always seems to be thinking a few steps ahead.

Re: Zed 1.0

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Post by halJordan »

meantub wrote: post #378
jorgeleo wrote: post #370

I was all for trying it until I saw this in the License Agreement: "4.1. Zed's Use of Customer Data Customer hereby grants Zed a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free, fully paid-up, non-sublicensable (except to service providers and Customer’s designees), non-transferable (except as set forth in Section 15.1) right to use, copy, store, disclose, transmit, transfer, display, modify, create derivative works from, col…

Aren't you forgetting the part that says "solely: (a) to perform its obligations set forth in the Terms, including its Support obligations as applicable; (b) to derive and generate Telemetry (see Section 4.4); and (c) as necessary to comply with applicable Laws. Except as required by applicable Laws, Zed will not provide Customer Data to any person or entity other than Customer’s designees (including pursuant to Sect…

This is a bad faith take. The terms are modifiable without the customer's consent or knowledge so "pursuant to these terms" is meaningless.

No one needs all those rights to do what this block says it's going to do. Any one would require that block to be changed in any contract between equals. But this is a contract of adhesion, so it's uncharitable for you to demand charity where they withhold their charity

Re: Zed 1.0

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Post by chrysoprace »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #75

Congrats to the Zed team for building the best modern editor I have ever used. I subscribe to the monthly plan just to give you guys the funding you need, even if my funding is a tiny drop in the bucket. I always wanted a feature rich alternative to Sublime Text that can run anywhere and do basically anything I need from it. I've use JetBrains IDEs for years (been subscribed annually since 2017), but since Zed I have…

I've always thought of Zed as a good Sublime Text alternative. I can tinker with and potentially break my Neovim config, but I'll have Zed as a backup for when I need to do a quick edit. Their Vim mode is the best I've used outside of JetBrains (or Vim itself).

Re: Zed 1.0

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Post by opengrass »

MintPaw wrote: post #411
opengrass wrote: post #404

Can't run it. Vulkan as a dependency for a text editor is beyond retarded.

Vulkan, DX11, or Metal, I'm curious which environment has the ability render a GUI desktop but doesn't have access to a modern renderer pipeline. VirtualBox I guess?

AMD https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/issues/50996

Re: Zed 1.0

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Post by fowlie »

huijzer wrote: post #336
nzoschke wrote: post #53

Congrats! My daily driver is Zed developing on SSH remote servers on exe.dev. It's crazy to think of all the dev tools I've churned through over the last 18 months but these two feel sticky. Zed has everything I need in a unified pane. File editor, terminal, agents, SSH remotes. And it's fast and intuitive exe.dev is the first "dev container" I've ever *loved*. The remote sandbox means `dangerously-skip-permissions`…

How does exe.dev differ from VPS + Caddy + some subdomain on a domain you already own? For auth one can use Caddy and basic auth. Yes it takes a bit of work but it isn’t that bad. Plus zero subscription costs if your VPS is a Raspberry

> Yes it takes a bit of work but it isn’t that bad.

Agreed, it takes a few hours to set up everything. But just did it with Claude the other day, and I was up and running in no time! :-)

Re: Zed 1.0

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Post by simonask »

haspok wrote: post #363

My biggest gripe with Zed right now (it seems they had changed the default force-formatting of source code) is that it is non-extensible. I just wanted a custom action when I right click on a file (or multiple files) in the file tree - uh-oh, sorry, you can't have that. Basically all text editors should be extensible. Emacs and vim, Notepad++ or Sublime - this is one of their core features. Do I need to explain this…

Not gonna lie, I kinda hate this attitude.

There’s tons of extensions for Zed, but you’re asking for particular extension hooks that don’t exist yet.

I expect the reason they don’t is that Zed sandboxes extensions quite aggressively (they’re essentially WASM running under wasmtime), which is fantastic for both security and performance, and it means they don’t break when the app updates, but it also means that a bit more care needs to be put into designing extension points.

I’m sure it’ll come.

Re: Zed 1.0

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Post by andai »

serf wrote: post #353
nickelpro wrote: post #222

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is way too equivocating. You are a craftsman, learn your tools. Could you imagine the equivalent from other professionals? A machinist saying, "Understanding the differences and interop places between the DRO, hand controls, and CNC controls for the lathe can be a big confusing time hog." It takes a couple of hours, and it's a tool you use every single day. Learning how it works is the price of entry, not a moun…

lol ok but where does it stop? I got into programming long before LSPs and MCPs. The only craftsmen are the ones at the edge of the lingo tree? To use your own analogy, as a machinist myself : I can master the concept of the lathe and bow drill without learning simulation-driven CAM, and I would be no less a machinist than the guy pressing buttons on a brand new Haas. If you work via notepad.exe and assembly with a c…

https://notepadexe.com/

Every day we stray further from God.

Re: Zed 1.0

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Post by combyn8tor »

sev_verso wrote: post #80

I've been using the editor since the early days and have always been a fan of its visual look and feel, so I was pretty happy to see its UI library open sourced. I wish GPUI could become the go-to Rust UI library and not just an editor backend. For that, a couple of changes would be highly desirable: being able to switch the GPU backend from Metal to wgpu (so it could be mixed with vello, for instance), and the abili…

They seem to have stopped developing GPUI (or maybe just the public version)?

One of the staff forked it into a community edition https://github.com/gpui-ce/gpui-ce

Does anyone have more details about the state of it?

Re: Zed 1.0

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Post by throwaway73747 »

kstrauser wrote: post #221

Zed got me off of Emacs for the most part, which is about the highest praise I can offer. I've never used an editor that 1. closely mapped to how I think about code, and 2. is easily extensible enough that it's broadly supported with a gazillion third-party packets, and 3. is lightning fast. Emacs does 1 and 2. VSCode excels at 2. Sublime is good for 2 and 3, and Vim, and BBEdit 2 too. Zed's the only one I've ever tr…

Hopefully Neomacs, “A GPU-powered Emacs written in Rust with a modern display engine … starting with the display engine and expanding to the core“, will succeed.

https://github.com/eval-exec/neomacs

Re: Zed 1.0

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Post by piker »

meantub wrote: post #378
jorgeleo wrote: post #370

I was all for trying it until I saw this in the License Agreement: "4.1. Zed's Use of Customer Data Customer hereby grants Zed a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free, fully paid-up, non-sublicensable (except to service providers and Customer’s designees), non-transferable (except as set forth in Section 15.1) right to use, copy, store, disclose, transmit, transfer, display, modify, create derivative works from, col…

Aren't you forgetting the part that says "solely: (a) to perform its obligations set forth in the Terms, including its Support obligations as applicable; (b) to derive and generate Telemetry (see Section 4.4); and (c) as necessary to comply with applicable Laws. Except as required by applicable Laws, Zed will not provide Customer Data to any person or entity other than Customer’s designees (including pursuant to Sect…

I had the same thought but if you chase down the definition of "Telemetry" as well as unilateral amendment rights pointed out in sibling comments, there's some broad authority implied.
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