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Pentagon spending on drones jumps from $225M to $55B in one year

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Re: Pentagon spending on drones jumps from $225M to $55B in one year

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The most surprising thing here is that the US was previously only spending $225 Million on drones when it’s been fully apparent for the past decade(s) that drones were the future of warfare.

I think the surprising thing to me here is that there is a generation of children afraid of a clear blue sky because it means drones can see them..

... and it only cost $225M.

(source: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/2013/10/saddest-words-c...)

Re: Pentagon spending on drones jumps from $225M to $55B in one year

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Doesn’t seem anywhere near enough. All future and present conflict is fundamentally based around drones.

I'm not sure how true that is. Sure it's what we're seeing in Ukraine right now with both sides using them a lot, but my understanding is that has to due with the fact that neither side is able to get air superiority with conventional aircraft. The same reason Iran is using a lot of drones now. It doesn't seem like the US would be in a conflict where they don't have air superiority. Now I would agree that the US mili…

> The same reason Iran is using a lot of drones now. It doesn't seem like the US would be in a conflict where they don't have air superiority.

Hmmm, this sentence appears to be a paradox? Is the US not fighting Iran right now?

Iran has a very weak air force and the US claims air superiority, yet Iran is using a lot of drones.

I think your comment proves GP's point, regardless of traditional air power, drones will feature heavily in any conflict.

Re: Pentagon spending on drones jumps from $225M to $55B in one year

#23

Doesn’t seem anywhere near enough. All future and present conflict is fundamentally based around drones.

> All future and present conflict is fundamentally based around drones.

...all the more reason to reduce spending on them.

Re: Pentagon spending on drones jumps from $225M to $55B in one year

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Reminder: The Trump family has direct involvement in drone companies https://apnews.com/article/trump-sons-powerus-drone-intercep...

But Hunter Biden said "the big guy" in an email - that's the corruption we need to be talking about!!! /s

Re: Pentagon spending on drones jumps from $225M to $55B in one year

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A Chinese drone manufacturer [Poly Technologies] has disclosed a massive government order for almost a million lightweight kamikaze drones, to be delivered by 2026

https://defence-blog.com/china-places-massive-order-for-kami...

https://www.warquants.com/p/one-million-suicide-drones-with-...

Re: Pentagon spending on drones jumps from $225M to $55B in one year

#26

It would cost less to provide free breakfast and lunch to all public school students in the US, but that might actually improve the country's future instead of blowing things up.

"Why does man have reason if he can only be influenced by violence?"

Re: Pentagon spending on drones jumps from $225M to $55B in one year

#27

The most surprising thing here is that the US was previously only spending $225 Million on drones when it’s been fully apparent for the past decade(s) that drones were the future of warfare.

It didn't make sense to physically stock up on them before. It was mostly research, prototyping, comms infrastructure, software for swarms, AI piloting, ground control, etc. The next phase of building factories and manufacturing tooling/capabilities is a little bit concerning.

Simple DJI style drones employed en masse in Afghanistan would have been helpful for a variety of tasks.

I cannot see any reason, over than oversight and a lack of imagination, why something useful in Ukraine in 2022 was not feasible or useful in 2017 by the USA.

We already used drones quite handily well before that time frame but in a much more limited manner in a different form factor.

Re: Pentagon spending on drones jumps from $225M to $55B in one year

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It would cost less to provide free breakfast and lunch to all public school students in the US, but that might actually improve the country's future instead of blowing things up.

We spend drastically more money than this on education; it isn't even in the same ballpark. People get tripped up about this because the funding comes from different taxing bodies (most education funding is state and local) --- but all taxation is linked.

We also couldn't fully fund free school meals for this sum, this sum is an ambit claim by the administration not a budget, and a large component of this funding request is for capital expenditures, not ongoing operational expenditure. The (larger) school meal funding dollars would have to be paid regularly.

Re: Pentagon spending on drones jumps from $225M to $55B in one year

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post #8

Doesn’t seem anywhere near enough. All future and present conflict is fundamentally based around drones.

I'm not sure how true that is. Sure it's what we're seeing in Ukraine right now with both sides using them a lot, but my understanding is that has to due with the fact that neither side is able to get air superiority with conventional aircraft. The same reason Iran is using a lot of drones now. It doesn't seem like the US would be in a conflict where they don't have air superiority. Now I would agree that the US mili…

A million suicide drones is far cheaper than 10,000 infantry.

Very soon, "good enough" robotic autonomous infantry will exist which will make soldiers in the 21st century look as outdated as cavalry.

Re: Pentagon spending on drones jumps from $225M to $55B in one year

#30

It would cost less to provide free breakfast and lunch to all public school students in the US, but that might actually improve the country's future instead of blowing things up.

US schools are some of the best funded in the world. The causative relationship of funding on student performance is not strong.

Social programs such as Medicare, SSI, etc dwarf the military budget.

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