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Why AI companies want you to be afraid of them

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Re: Why AI companies want you to be afraid of them

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> It's a strange way for any company to talk about its own work. You don't hear McDonald's announcing that it's created a burger so terrifyingly delicious that it would be unethical to grill it for the public.

> Here's one theory.

But the author never gets back to this! It's the main observation the theory has to account for; why don't we see other companies speak this way, if it's such an effective strategy for deflecting non-apocalyptic concerns?

Re: Why AI companies want you to be afraid of them

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's true but in reality I think people are far more afraid of AI in terms of how it is being used in warfare and policing. Automatic target detection and deployment of drones, or even how it might simply make their role at work redundant etc

I am to be honest not sure what I am more scared. AI shaping warfare Vs. Using AI to justify outrageous warfare

that’s not a war crime, that’s boundary setting, and honestly, that’s rare

would you like me to list the applicable sections of the Geneva convention?

Re: Why AI companies want you to be afraid of them

#14
Article mentions a book "The AI Con" that argues that much of what is labeled "artificial intelligence" is a misleading term that obscures ordinary automation while concentrating power in a small number of technology firms.

So fear-mongering seems to be just a tool how to get attention and more customers.

Hey ma, I use very dangerous tool now. I am OG.

Re: Why AI companies want you to be afraid of them

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> It's a strange way for any company to talk about its own work. You don't hear McDonald's announcing that it's created a burger so terrifyingly delicious that it would be unethical to grill it for the public. > Here's one theory. But the author never gets back to this! It's the main observation the theory has to account for; why don't we see other companies speak this way, if it's such an effective strategy for defl…

tbf most companies don't have a potentially world-ending product. only real similar field is defense contractors who typically can't brag about unreleased ideas as they're classified.

Re: Why AI companies want you to be afraid of them

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Honestly we should have learned this claim from AI companies was purely fear-mongering back when GPT-2 was "too dangerous to release".

That's true but in reality I think people are far more afraid of AI in terms of how it is being used in warfare and policing. Automatic target detection and deployment of drones, or even how it might simply make their role at work redundant etc

> That's true but in reality I think people are far more afraid of AI in terms of how it is being used in warfare and policing. Automatic target detection and deployment of drones, or even how it might simply make their role at work redundant etc

I think the last one should be first on the list: regular people are afraid AI will negatively affect their economic security (i.e. knowledge and service workers will get the rust-belt factory worker treatment).

And the potential of giving knowledge and service workers the rust-belt factory worker treatment is exactly what makes Wall Street excited about AI and has the AI company leaders salivating about the profit they can make.

Warfare, policing, bio-engineered viruses are theoretical and far down the list.

Re: Why AI companies want you to be afraid of them

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Honestly we should have learned this claim from AI companies was purely fear-mongering back when GPT-2 was "too dangerous to release".

That's true but in reality I think people are far more afraid of AI in terms of how it is being used in warfare and policing. Automatic target detection and deployment of drones, or even how it might simply make their role at work redundant etc

To me, the more interesting divergence in discussion is on its capabilities.

AI industry insiders (including "safety" groups like ControlAI) talk about the dangers only in terms of its power: "Scheming", job loss, breaking containment, the New Cold War with China.

Critics outside the industry talk in terms of its lack of power: Inaccuracy, erroneous translation of user intent, failure to deliver on its promises and investment, environmental cost from the former, and ultimately the danger of people in power (e.g. law enforcement, military officials) treating its output as valid and unbiased, or simply laundering their wishes through it.

Re: Why AI companies want you to be afraid of them

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, it's the BBC and the article doesn't have any typical AI tells, where is this idea that it's AI written coming from???

I'm assuming it's possible that an AI can deduct the potential 3rd degree result from an article like this on the BBC. Not talking about the wording

Roko's basilisk is a very tedious idea.
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