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OpenAI models coming to Amazon Bedrock: Interview with OpenAI and AWS CEOs

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Re: OpenAI models coming to Amazon Bedrock: Interview with OpenAI and AWS CEOs

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Yah, this is huge. I imagine this is partly fueled by the recent government backlash against Anthropic for not bending down to their whims. Allowing OpenAI models to be hosted by Bedrock basically fast-tracks (sanctioned) ChatGPT usage across all agencies and clearance levels.

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Just waiting for Gemma 4, DeepSeek 4 now. Then the only thing I'll be able to complain about is the completely different API to interface with (unless they FINALLY move to full OpenAI support).

Just use litellm or any-llm if you want to convert to OpenAI format. They did used to have bespoke per model interfaces that were way worse

Re: OpenAI models coming to Amazon Bedrock: Interview with OpenAI and AWS CEOs

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I'm going to play devil's advocate here: _what if_ most of lower level engineers are actually not able to self-organize themselves like this dedicated, I bet hand-picked group of PE can? I'm pretty sure AWS ruthless culture would gladly use less middle-managers and be swifter in time to market if it were so easy, no? What works for a single, highly-focused project (or a handful of similar situations) doesn't scale wh…

Having seen how the sausage is made, Amazon's internal engineering culture is a textbook example of the principal/agent problem. You only get a raise from a promo, and you only get a promo from scope. It's way easier for management to demonstrate scope and so those folks build out empires of crap. In the best case they're just consuming oxygen, but I have definitely seen orgs created that were a negative influence on…

Never worked for BigTech, so I'mm really not in my territory, but I wonder what is the purpose of all those interviews to get "the best of the best" and then let these things happen. What are the incentives for the management layer?

Re: OpenAI models coming to Amazon Bedrock: Interview with OpenAI and AWS CEOs

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OpenAI is starting to scramble after missing revenue targets, and this move is likely 24 months too late. There’s almost nobody that will suddenly start using AI because of this decision and those already using it have already broadly made their model decisions to use things other than OpenAI.

It’s good to see more model diversity on Bedrock, but this smells more a rushed play by OpenAI to stop the market share bleeding vs a concerted strategy.

Re: OpenAI models coming to Amazon Bedrock: Interview with OpenAI and AWS CEOs

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post #95

Just waiting for Gemma 4, DeepSeek 4 now. Then the only thing I'll be able to complain about is the completely different API to interface with (unless they FINALLY move to full OpenAI support).

Amazon Bedrock Mantle provides OpenAI compatible API endpoints for model inference, powered by Mantle, a distributed inference engine for large-scale machine learning model serving. These endpoints allow you to use familiar OpenAI SDKs and tools with Amazon Bedrock models, enabling you to migrate existing applications with minimal code changes—simply update your base URL and API key.

https://docs.aws.amazon.com/bedrock/latest/userguide/bedrock...

Re: OpenAI models coming to Amazon Bedrock: Interview with OpenAI and AWS CEOs

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post #111

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Yah, this is huge. I imagine this is partly fueled by the recent government backlash against Anthropic for not bending down to their whims. Allowing OpenAI models to be hosted by Bedrock basically fast-tracks (sanctioned) ChatGPT usage across all agencies and clearance levels.

Yeah, seems like the hating anthropic larp is over and we’re back full speed into using them in every environment.

Re: OpenAI models coming to Amazon Bedrock: Interview with OpenAI and AWS CEOs

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Having seen how the sausage is made, Amazon's internal engineering culture is a textbook example of the principal/agent problem. You only get a raise from a promo, and you only get a promo from scope. It's way easier for management to demonstrate scope and so those folks build out empires of crap. In the best case they're just consuming oxygen, but I have definitely seen orgs created that were a negative influence on…

Never worked for BigTech, so I'mm really not in my territory, but I wonder what is the purpose of all those interviews to get "the best of the best" and then let these things happen. What are the incentives for the management layer?

probably the main thing is just having low-level engineers competent enough to run operations on the dozens of poorly maintained 50k LoC codebases per team, hundreds of bespoke internal dependencies, processes, and custom tooling. build ecosystems of 5+ languages.

secondarily its an industrialization of software development. the hiring process is where they try define the labor as a replaceable component. grab the best cogs you can annually for the lowest price, run them in the machine for 2-4 years and swap most of them out before they get too expensive, or specialized or uppity.

Re: OpenAI models coming to Amazon Bedrock: Interview with OpenAI and AWS CEOs

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Open AI is killing Sora though, so it looks like they are looking at Anthropic's playbook of focusing on enterprise use cases and seeing that it's more profitable.

But then they released gpt-image-2, which is clearly SOTA.

Image generation would seem like it would have many more enterprise use cases (particularly marketing, but essentially all the business uses of Photoshop) than video.

Re: OpenAI models coming to Amazon Bedrock: Interview with OpenAI and AWS CEOs

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It just not about AWS being some "trusted intermediary"... it's that the model runs inside the customer own AWS account under a different contract. AWS explicitly states inputs/outputs are not shared with model providers and are not used to train base models [1] And for OpenAI, there is a May 2025 preservation order in NYT v. OpenAI. The court is forcing OpenAI to retain ChatGPT output logs indefinitely, including ch…

I'm confused, your own #2 link says that Open AI is not bound to store output logs indefinitely going forward: > Update on October 22, 2025: > After months of litigation, we are no longer under a legal order to retain consumer ChatGPT and API content indefinitely. Our obligations under the earlier order ended on September 26, 2025. > We’ve returned to our standard data retention practices : > Deleted ChatGPT conversa…

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