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Why aren't we all using Japanese toilets?

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Re: Why aren't we all using Japanese toilets?

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Nay. Reaching between your legs? I'd honestly never even thought that was an option. You just lean to the side, while seated. Just try it once, and keep an open mind.

But that will put asymmetric stress on the toilet seat. As an engineer, wearing out one side of the seat more than the other bothers me.

Rotate your tires, as it were.

Re: Why aren't we all using Japanese toilets?

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This is how they do it in Thailand, at least. Basically, imagine the sprayer in your kitchen sink attached to your toilet. In areas without (edit: running) water, they'll have a bucket of clean water nearby with some sort of cup to use. I've heard this is pretty common in SE Asia.

Can someone point me to a product (preferably on Amazon) that's exactly like the sprayers in Thailand? One that can be screwed into a toilet's water supply, not a kitchen sink's.

It sounds like people are describing what are caller diaper sprayers:

http://www.amazon.com/bumGenius-890077002003-Diaper-Sprayer/...

But I wouldn't want to use these on a person, the water pressure and flux area are too large.

Re: Why aren't we all using Japanese toilets?

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Because I don't want to fly that far just to use the bathroom!

... joking aside, I think it's the notion of using water that might freak people out. I'm not opposed to the concept, but I would worry about its effectiveness. I mean, I feel like I'd always want toilet paper there, even if it's just a placebo for making me feel truly clean.

Re: Why aren't we all using Japanese toilets?

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I might in the paranoid minority on this, but here are some concerns I have: * How does the toilet know that everything is clean? With toilet paper, you can just wipe with new toilet paper until there is no more residue. * What is the algorithm for the toilet's spraying? Does it end up spreading diluted feces around, or is it careful to spray outward-in? * What happens if feces end up on the nozzle? Is there some kin…

- It's like washing your hands vs. wiping them off with a paper towel. You should wipe clean first, then you water clean. - The sprayer is manually controlled: when you're done using and flushing, then you wash & dry. It doesn't just stick out the whole time.

I love that half the comments here say to wipe first, and the other half say to wet first.

Re: Why aren't we all using Japanese toilets?

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post #271

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Air dryers are incredibly bad. Hand dryers are practically a waste of time since they barely do anything IMHO.

Hand dryers are very efficient! They don't seem to do anything for the first ~20 seconds, but in the last 5 seconds you feel all the water evaporating. That's because only the water surface evaporates, until your skin is exposed dry. You are probably like most people who I see use them in public bathroom, using them only for <10 seconds.

You're probably right. But I can wipe with a towel in 2 seconds. 20 seconds is far too long to be any use.

Re: Why aren't we all using Japanese toilets?

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Most ? Maybe it's just because I live in the Northeast, but I've only very rarely seen a bathroom that did not have a GFCI outlet. (My current apartment has four: two in the bathroom, two in the kitchen.)

And most of them are usually not near a toilet. While the parts are cheap, it's not a trivial matter to install an outlet where one hasn't been planned in a finished room.

I don't think I agree with that. Every home I've lived in has had a GFCI outlet within four feet. (Usually on the side of the sink, next to the mirror. Also usually adjacent to the toilet.)

Re: Why aren't we all using Japanese toilets?

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It's not a reasonable default because every visitor to your house would make a comment requiring you to justify having "fringe" bathroom habits. Edit: Not every, of course. And the number would vary by region of the US. Excuse the universal quantifier :)

I saw this somewhere else, but it stuck with me: "if you get poop on your arm, do you wipe it off with a dry piece of paper - or do you wash with soap and water?" I don't understand why bidets are fringe :(

If you poop on your arm, do you rinse it off under a drinking fountain? That is pretty much what a bidet does...

Anyway, why does that quote compare washing with soap and water? do bidets do this?

Re: Why aren't we all using Japanese toilets?

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I think you completely missed his point.

I can confirm @aptimpropriety's claim after having tested this in bidets in multiple countries. It doesn't matter how high you turn on the water pressure, if you grab a piece of toilet paper afterwards it seems to always find some... remainders.

With Bidets you may be correct because you have less water flow and also less control of the direction. A hand held bathroom bidet sprayer is so much better than a stand alone bidet and this is why:1. It's less expensive (potentially allot less) 2. You can install in yourself = no plumber expense 3. It works better by providing more control of where the water spray goes and a greater volume of water flow. 4. It requires no electricity and there are few things that can go wrong with it. 5. It doesn't take up any more space, many bathrooms don't have room for a stand alone bidet. 6. You don’t have to get up and move from the toilet to the bidet which can be rather awkward at times to say the least. Available at http://www.bathroomsprayers.com

Re: Why aren't we all using Japanese toilets?

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I can confirm @aptimpropriety's claim after having tested this in bidets in multiple countries. It doesn't matter how high you turn on the water pressure, if you grab a piece of toilet paper afterwards it seems to always find some... remainders.

With Bidets you may be correct because you have less water flow and also less control of the direction. A hand held bathroom bidet sprayer is so much better than a stand alone bidet and this is why:1. It's less expensive (potentially allot less) 2. You can install in yourself = no plumber expense 3. It works better by providing more control of where the water spray goes and a greater volume of water flow. 4. It requi…

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