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Deep under Antarctic ice, a long-predicted cosmic whisper breaks through

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Re: Deep under Antarctic ice, a long-predicted cosmic whisper breaks through

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Is it just ice? I thought most neutrino detectors were large underground pools of water. I mean ... tomāto/tomăto, yes, but is solid water better than liquid water?

For radio detection, solid water is better because it has a much much longer radio attenuation length.

Re: Deep under Antarctic ice, a long-predicted cosmic whisper breaks through

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I was involved in this analysis if anybody has questions (though the student and postdoc did most of the real work) original article: https://arxiv.org/abs/2510.21104 or https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/xwqy-yzrk

All these high energy particles travel at tremendous speeds, and for them it looks like you traveled half the Universe in a fraction of a second. And then you've hit an Antarctic ice. I think I'd be extremely excited at this, because I'm sure any particle dreams about becoming alive, and falling on Earth give pretty solid chances to integrate into a living organism. And even maybe to fly to the Moon then, to build a…

Particles don't like being anthropomorphized.

Re: Deep under Antarctic ice, a long-predicted cosmic whisper breaks through

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, [controlled] liquid water is better but [controlled] solid water is more abundant?

I wouldn't say liquid is "better". The neutrinos don't care from a cross section standpoint. Uniformity of the light field is going to be different, but that is not my sub-domain.

Wouldn't the higher density of liquid water be an advantage?

Re: Deep under Antarctic ice, a long-predicted cosmic whisper breaks through

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Just read the title and thought "Not now Cthulu, we've got enough going on"

Probably more likely to run into a Shoggoth than Cthulhu in the Antarctic, or maybe an Elder Thing if any are still around. Rl'yeh is a bit further north.

Re: Deep under Antarctic ice, a long-predicted cosmic whisper breaks through

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Just read the title and thought "Not now Cthulu, we've got enough going on"

I thought of The Thing... Does the study mention if all their dogs are accounted for and acting normally?

If you think someone has a heart attack, do not do CPR.

Re: Deep under Antarctic ice, a long-predicted cosmic whisper breaks through

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post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't say liquid is "better". The neutrinos don't care from a cross section standpoint. Uniformity of the light field is going to be different, but that is not my sub-domain.

Wouldn't the higher density of liquid water be an advantage?

It's quite a minor difference

Re: Deep under Antarctic ice, a long-predicted cosmic whisper breaks through

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Cough, Cough. (Dusting off my Hacker News Fan Boy Hat.) I just want to come round again to how amazing it is to have a small slice of the internet where “amazeballs scientific discovery happens” and we get, of course, someone on the site who has been part of it. (Hat goes back in box)

I often feel like HN is the last true remnant of the old internet. Very grateful that it still exists in its current form.
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