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Google and Pentagon reportedly agree on deal for 'any lawful' use of AI

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Re: Google and Pentagon reportedly agree on deal for 'any lawful' use of AI

#81

Who could have seen this one coming. From yesterday: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/google-ai-pentagon-classified-u... ("Hundreds of Google workers urge CEO to refuse classified AI work with Pentagon"). Any AI researcher who continues to work here is morally compromised.

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Re: Google and Pentagon reportedly agree on deal for 'any lawful' use of AI

#82

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This government doesn't GAF what is "lawful" and what isn't. Was what happened to Pretti and Good in Minneapolis lawful? Would you work for ICE/CBP with no qualms at all? See also the new national sport of hunting for fishing boats off the South American coast. Is that "lawful?" And yes, since you went there: everything the Nazis did was "lawful." To the extent it wasn't "lawful," they made it "lawful."

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Re: Google and Pentagon reportedly agree on deal for 'any lawful' use of AI

#83

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Why would you write a letter if you don't know what you're objecting to or even if you should be objecting?

Can't I object to not knowing?

No, that's what classified means.

Re: Google and Pentagon reportedly agree on deal for 'any lawful' use of AI

#84

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We can all agree that working for the Nazi government’s military would be morally compromising, right? You propose that other governments militaries would not be so compromising. Seems reasonable. But the question then becomes, what is the operative distinction between the two?

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Lawful use in the US is whatever Dementia Don says it is.

Re: Google and Pentagon reportedly agree on deal for 'any lawful' use of AI

#85

Who could have seen this one coming. From yesterday: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/google-ai-pentagon-classified-u... ("Hundreds of Google workers urge CEO to refuse classified AI work with Pentagon"). Any AI researcher who continues to work here is morally compromised.

Why is it morally wrong for a US citizen to work with their government?

It’s not, but legal is not the same as ethical.

For a long time, and probably still, it was legal for the US to torture enemy combatants. It was never ethical.

Re: Google and Pentagon reportedly agree on deal for 'any lawful' use of AI

#86
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Will lawful use be determined in secret courts a la NSA and FISA?

Don't be silly. "When the president does it, that means that it is not illegal." - Richard Nixon

Also the Supreme Court, half of Congress, and apparently something like 40% of the American populace.

Re: Google and Pentagon reportedly agree on deal for 'any lawful' use of AI

#87

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Can't I object to not knowing?

No, that's what classified means.

Surely I can complain about overclassification of things that should not be classified?

Re: Google and Pentagon reportedly agree on deal for 'any lawful' use of AI

#89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This government doesn't GAF what is "lawful" and what isn't. Was what happened to Pretti and Good in Minneapolis lawful? Would you work for ICE/CBP with no qualms at all? See also the new national sport of hunting for fishing boats off the South American coast. Is that "lawful?" And yes, since you went there: everything the Nazis did was "lawful." To the extent it wasn't "lawful," they made it "lawful."

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> Don't attack law enforcement with a deadly weapon, whether it's a vehicle or gun.

How do you attack law enforcement with a gun while on your knees, with your arms pinned behind you and the gun is holstered? It's interesting how we can watch the same video, and some people only see what they are told to see.

Re: Google and Pentagon reportedly agree on deal for 'any lawful' use of AI

#90
One observation.

Having your work being used by the govt in ways you disagree with feels similar to having your taxes used in ways you disagree.

When you pay taxes you have no say in the bombs acquired with that and where they are dropped. The latter though doesn't seem to provoke the same push back

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